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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
Cc: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8] mountd: remove 'dev_missing' checks
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:27:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160819172704.GJ32329@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8737m1im2p.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:28:30AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> 
> > Not really arguing--I'll trust your judgement--just some random ideas:
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:32:52AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 17 2016, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >> > In which case what it really wants to say is "before nfs mounts" (or
> >> > even "before nfs mounts of localhost"; and vice versa on shutdown).  I
> >> > can't tell if there's an easy way to get say that.
> >> 
> >> I'd be happy with a difficult/complex way, if it was reliable.
> >> Could we write a systemd generator which parses /etc/fstab, determines
> >> all mount points which a loop-back NFS mounts (or even just any NFS
> >> mounts) and creates a drop-in for nfs-server which adds
> >>   Before=mount-point.mount
> >> for each /mount/point.
> >> 
> >> Could that be reliable?  I might try.
> >
> > Digging around... we've also got this callout from mount to start-statd,
> > can we use something like that to make loopback nfs mounts wait on nfs
> > server startup?
> 
> An nfs mount already waits for the server to start up.  The ordering
> dependency between NFS mounts and the nfs-server only really matters at
> shutdown, and we cannot enhance mount.nfs to wait for a negative amount
> of time (also known as "time travel")

D'oh, I keep forgetting that point.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-19 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-14  2:26 [PATCH 0/8] Assorted mount-related nfs-utils patches NeilBrown
2016-07-14  2:26 ` [PATCH 4/8] mountd: cause attempts to access unmounted exportpoints to return ESTALE NeilBrown
2016-07-14  2:26 ` [PATCH 2/8] mountd: remove the --exports-file option NeilBrown
2016-07-18 16:19   ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-14  2:26 ` [PATCH 5/8] mountd: Don't export unmounted exports to NFSv4 NeilBrown
2016-07-14  2:26 ` [PATCH 3/8] mountd: remove 'dev_missing' checks NeilBrown
2016-07-18 20:01   ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-19 22:50     ` NeilBrown
2016-07-21 17:24       ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-08-11  2:51         ` NeilBrown
2016-08-16 15:21           ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-08-18  1:32             ` NeilBrown
2016-08-18  2:57               ` Chuck Lever
2016-08-19  1:31                 ` NeilBrown
2016-08-18 13:57               ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-08-19  1:28                 ` NeilBrown
2016-08-19 17:27                   ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2016-07-14  2:26 ` [PATCH 6/8] mountd: don't add paths to non-mounted export points to pseudo-root NeilBrown
2016-07-18 20:32   ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-19  8:00     ` Chuck Lever
2016-07-19 22:59     ` NeilBrown
2016-07-21 17:33       ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-25  7:22         ` NeilBrown
2016-07-28 20:54           ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-14  2:26 ` [PATCH 7/8] mount: don't treat temporary name resolution failure as permanent NeilBrown
2016-07-19 23:01   ` NeilBrown
2016-07-14  2:26 ` [PATCH 1/8] nfs.man: clarify effect of 'retry' option NeilBrown
2016-07-14  2:26 ` [PATCH 8/8] mount: use a public address for IPv6 callback NeilBrown

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