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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@redhat.com>
To: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <schumakeranna@gmail.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dros Adamson <dros@primarydata.com>,
	Weston Andros Adamson <dros@netapp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] NFSv4: allow getacl rpc to allocate pages on demand
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 20:53:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170222015333.GA20019@parsley.fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHc6FU5EpChr02-t2ZRZ=oX1kRPO=L8TriLAzCxcoNhJSvxs+g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:45:35PM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:37 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:21:05PM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi Andreas-
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On Feb 20, 2017, at 4:31 PM, Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:15 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 11:42:31AM -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> On Feb 20, 2017, at 11:09 AM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 02:29:03PM -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 9:07 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> From: Weston Andros Adamson <dros@netapp.com>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Instead of preallocating pags, allow xdr_partial_copy_from_skb() to
> >> >>>>>>> allocate whatever pages we need on demand.  This is what the NFSv3 ACL
> >> >>>>>>> code does.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> The patch description does not explain why this change is
> >> >>>>>> being done.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> The only justification I see is avoiding allocating pages unnecessarily.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> That makes sense. Is there a real world workload that has seen
> >> >>>> a negative effect?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Without this patch, for each getacl, we allocate 17 pages (if I'm
> >> >>>>> calculating correctly) and probably rarely use most of them.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> In the v3 case I think it's 7 pages instead of 17.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I would have guessed 9. Out of curiosity, is there a reason
> >> >>>> documented for these size limits?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> In the v4 case:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>        #define NFS4ACL_MAXPAGES DIV_ROUND_UP(XATTR_SIZE_MAX, PAGE_SIZE)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And I believe XATTR_SIZE_MAX is a global maximum on the size of any
> >> >>> extend attribute value.
> >> >>
> >> >> XATTR_SIZE_MAX is the maximum size of an extended attribute. NFSv4
> >> >> ACLs are passed through unchanged in "system.nfs4_acl".
> >> >
> >> > "Extended attribute" means this is a Linux-specific limit?
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> > Is there anything that prevents a non-Linux system from constructing
> >> > or returning an ACL that is larger than that?
> >>
> >> No.
> >
> > In the >=v4.1 case there are session limits, but they'll typically be
> > less.  In the 4.0 case I think there's no explicit limit at all.  In
> > practice I bet other systems are similar to Linux in that the assume
> > peers won't send rpc replies or requests larger than about the
> > maximum-sized read or write.  But again that'll usually be a higher
> > limit than our ACL limit.
> >
> >> > What happens on a Linux client when a server returns an ACL that does
> >> > not fit in this allotment?
> >>
> >> I would hope an error, but I haven't tested it.
> >
> > I haven't tested either, but it looks to me like the rpc layer receives
> > a truncated request, the xdr decoding recognizes that it's truncated,
> > and the result is an -ERANGE.
> >
> > Looking now I think that my "NFSv4: simplify getacl decoding" changes
> > that to an -EIO.  More importantly, it makes that an EIO even when the
> > calling application was only asking for the length, not the actual ACL
> > data.  I'll fix that.
> 
> Just be careful not to return a length from getxattr(path, name, NULL,
> 0) that will cause getxattr(path, name, buffer, size) to fail with
> ERANGE, please. Otherwise, user space might get very confused.

Ugh, OK.  So there could be userspace code that does something like

	while (getxattr(path, name, buf, size) == -ERANGE) {
		/* oops, must have raced with a size change */
		size = getxattr(path, name, NULL, 0);
		buf = realloc(buf, size);
	}

and you'd consider that a kernel bug not a userspace bug?

I suspect that can happen both before and after my changes.

So what do we want for that case?  Just -EIO?

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-22  1:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-17 16:44 [PATCH 0/3] getacl fixes J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-17 16:44 ` [PATCH 1/3] nfsd4: fix getacl head length estimation J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-17 16:44 ` [PATCH 2/3] NFSv4: fix getacl ERANGE for some ACL buffer sizes J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-17 16:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] nfsd4: simplify getacl decoding J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-17 19:15   ` kbuild test robot
2017-02-17 19:33     ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-17 19:35   ` [PATCH] nfsd4: fix ifnullfree.cocci warnings kbuild test robot
2017-02-17 19:34     ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-17 19:35   ` [PATCH 3/3] nfsd4: simplify getacl decoding kbuild test robot
2017-02-17 20:36 ` [PATCH 0/3] getacl fixes Chuck Lever
2017-02-17 20:52   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-17 21:21     ` Chuck Lever
2017-02-19  2:07 ` [PATCH 0/6] getacl fixes V2 J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-19  2:07   ` [PATCH 1/6] NFSv4: fix getacl head length estimation J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-20 13:19     ` Kinglong Mee
2017-02-20 15:50       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-20 20:27         ` [PATCH] " J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-19  2:07   ` [PATCH 2/6] NFSv4: fix getacl ERANGE for some ACL buffer sizes J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-21 19:46     ` Weston Andros Adamson
2017-02-22 22:36       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-23 14:55         ` Anna Schumaker
2017-02-23 19:43           ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-23 19:53             ` [PATCH 1/2] NFSv4: fix getacl head length estimation J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-23 19:54               ` [PATCH 2/2] NFSv4: fix getacl ERANGE for some ACL buffer sizes J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-23 21:54                 ` Anna Schumaker
2017-02-19  2:07   ` [PATCH 3/6] NFSv4: minor acl caching policy documentation J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-19  2:07   ` [PATCH 4/6] NFSv4: minor getacl cleanup J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-20 22:38     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2017-02-19  2:07   ` [PATCH 5/6] NFSv4: simplify getacl decoding J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-20 22:30     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2017-02-19  2:07   ` [PATCH 6/6] NFSv4: allow getacl rpc to allocate pages on demand J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-19 19:29     ` Chuck Lever
2017-02-20 16:09       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-20 16:42         ` Chuck Lever
2017-02-20 17:15           ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-20 21:31             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2017-02-21 18:46               ` Chuck Lever
2017-02-21 21:21                 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2017-02-21 21:37                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-21 21:45                     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2017-02-22  1:53                       ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2017-02-23 10:28                         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2017-02-23 20:20                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-20 22:38     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2017-02-21 18:35       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-21 19:45         ` Weston Andros Adamson

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