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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	trond.myklebust@primarydata.com, schumaker.anna@gmail.com,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, chuck.lever@oracle.com,
	jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce NFSv4 transport requirements
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 09:20:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170227142031.GA2142@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1488200155.2876.3.camel@redhat.com>

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 07:55:55AM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 07:08 -0500, Tom Talpey wrote:
> > On 2/27/2017 6:59 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > What we'd need to make that happen, I think is a [global] stanza in
> > > nfs.conf with a single 'nfsd_v3' boolean that defaults to off. If
> > 
> > Don't forget v2! And maybe even v4.0 if you're encouraging non-legacy
> > operation. RFC3530 was published 14 years ago, btw. RFC1813 in 1995,
> > and RFC1094 in 1989.

Looking just at the RHEL history.... I think we enabled experimental v4
in 2005 in RHEL4, but regretted that.  It wasn't a default until RHEL6
in 2010.  Other OS's were different, but in general I think
implementation lagged specification by a lot.  Ditto to some degree for
4.1.

> I think v2 already defaults to off these days? But yeah, I could see us
> adding a similar boolean for v2. Maybe we don't need a new switch at
> all, and just need to have everything look at the [nfsd] vers2= and
> vers3= config file options?
> 
> I think wiring nfsd and mountd up properly for this would be fairly easy
> here. statd is a little tougher since we don't want to run it or sm-
> notify at all if v2/3 are disabled. I wonder if there is any way we can
> make systemd look at this config file and decide whether to start statd
> based on whether either of those options is set?

Neil might have ideas--see https://lwn.net/Articles/701549/.

--b.

> I'd have no issue with eventually defaulting with v4.0 disabled as well,
> but there are a fair number of clients in the field that don't support
> v4.1 (or don't support it well). I think we'd need to wait and see how
> much grief we get about disabling v3 by default before we go there. 

      reply	other threads:[~2017-02-27 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-23 17:03 [PATCH 0/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce requirement for congestion control protocols in NFSv4 Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 17:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] sunrpc: flag transports as using IETF approved congestion control protocols Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 19:42   ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-23 20:00     ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 20:06       ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-23 20:11         ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-23 20:26           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-23 20:33             ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-23 20:55               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-24 15:08                 ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-24 17:17                   ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:03                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-23 20:32           ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 20:17         ` Chuck Lever
2017-02-23 20:15     ` Chuck Lever
2017-02-23 17:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] sunrpc: turn bitfield flags in svc_version into bools Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 17:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce congestion control protocol requirement for NFSv4 Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 17:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] sunrpc: don't register UDP port with rpcbind when version needs congestion control Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 17:17 ` [PATCH 0/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce requirement for congestion control protocols in NFSv4 Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce NFSv4 transport requirements Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:25   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] sunrpc: turn bitfield flags in svc_version into bools Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:25   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] sunrpc: flag transports as having both reliable and ordered delivery, and congestion control Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:25   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce transport requirements for NFSv4 Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:25   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] sunrpc: don't register UDP port with rpcbind when version needs congestion control Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:38   ` [PATCH v2 0/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce NFSv4 transport requirements Chuck Lever
2017-02-24 18:53     ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 21:23       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-24 18:53   ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-24 21:22     ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-24 21:25   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-24 21:34     ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 21:44       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-27 11:59         ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-27 12:08           ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-27 12:55             ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-27 14:20               ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]

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