From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@redhat.com>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] fs: hide another detail of delegation logic
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:56:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170905195619.GB17828@parsley.fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871snndq04.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>
On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 02:52:43PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 01 2017, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>
> >>
> >> nfsd would need to find that delegation, prevent further delegations
> >> being handed out, and check that there aren't already conflicting
> >> delegations. If there are conflicts, recall them. Once there are no
> >> conflicting delegations, make the vfs_ request.
> >
> > The way that we currently serialize setting, unsetting, and breaking
> > delegations is by locks on the delegated inodes which aren't taken till
> > deeper in the vfs code.
>
> Do we?
> I can see nfs4_set_delegation adding a new delegation for a new client
> without entering the vfs at all if there is already a lease held.
By "delegations", I meant locks of type FL_DELEG. But even then I was
wrong, apologies.
There is an inode_trylock in generic_add_lease that will prevent any new
delegations from being given while the inode's locked.
> If there isn't a lease already, vfs_setlease() is called, which doesn't
> its own internal locking of course. Much the same applies to unsetting
> delegations.
> Breaking delegations involves nfsd_break_deleg_cb() which has a comment
> that it is called with i_lock held.... that seems to be used to
> be sure that it is safe to a reference to the delegation state id.
> Is that the only dependency on the vfs locking, or did I miss something?
>
> >
> > I guess you're suggesting adding a second mechanism to prevent
> > delegations being given out on the inode. We could add an atomic
> > counter taken by each nfsd breaker while it's in progress. Hrm.
>
> Something like that.
> We would also need to be able to look up an nfs4_file by inode (why
> *are* they hashed by file handle??)
Grepping the logs.... That was ca9432178378 "nfsd: Use the filehandle
to look up the struct nfs4_file instead of inode" which doesn't give a
full justification. Later commits suggest it might be about keeping
nfsv4 state in many-to-one filehandle->inode cases (spec requirement, I
believe) and preventing the nfs4_file from pinning the inode (not seeing
immediately why that was an issue).
Anyway, I can't think of a reason why hashing the filehandle's a
problem.
> and add some wait queue somewhere
> so the breaker could wait for a delegation to be returned.
In the nfsd case we're just returning to the client immediately, so
that's not really necessary, though maybe it could be useful.
> My big-picture point is that any complexity created by NFSD's choice to
> merge delegations to multiple clients into a single vfs-level delegation
> should be handled by NFSD, and not imposed on the VFS.
> It certainly makes sense for the VFS to understand that certain
> operations are being performed by an fl_owner_t, and to allow
> delegations to that owner to remain. It doesn't make as much sense for
> the VFS to understand that there is a finer granularity of ownership
> than the one that it already supports.
Fair enough, I'll think about that.
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-05 19:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-25 21:52 [PATCH 0/3] Eliminate delegation self-conflicts J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-25 21:52 ` [PATCH 1/3] fs: cleanup to hide some details of delegation logic J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-28 3:54 ` NeilBrown
2017-08-29 21:37 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-30 19:50 ` Jeff Layton
2017-08-31 21:10 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-31 23:13 ` Jeff Layton
2017-08-25 21:52 ` [PATCH 2/3] fs: hide another detail " J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-28 4:43 ` NeilBrown
2017-08-29 21:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-30 0:43 ` NeilBrown
2017-08-30 17:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-30 23:26 ` NeilBrown
2017-08-31 19:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-31 23:27 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-01 16:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-04 4:52 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-05 19:56 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2017-09-05 21:35 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-06 16:03 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-07 0:43 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-08 15:06 ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-03-16 14:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-25 21:52 ` [PATCH 3/3] nfsd: clients don't need to break their own delegations J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-28 4:32 ` NeilBrown
2017-08-29 21:49 ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-03-16 14:43 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-07 22:01 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-08 5:06 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-08 15:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-26 18:06 ` [PATCH 0/3] Eliminate delegation self-conflicts Chuck Lever
2017-08-29 21:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-08-29 23:39 ` Chuck Lever
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