From: "bfields@fieldses.org" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@primarydata.com>
Cc: "ffilzlnx@mindspring.com" <ffilzlnx@mindspring.com>,
"chuck.lever@oracle.com" <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
SteveD redhat <steved@redhat.com>,
"mbenjami@redhat.com" <mbenjami@redhat.com>,
"berrange@redhat.com" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"jlayton@redhat.com" <jlayton@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH nfs-utils v3 00/14] add NFS over AF_VSOCK support
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:34:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170920183404.GI14329@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1505931425.10427.2.camel@primarydata.com>
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 06:17:07PM +0000, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 08:25 -0700, Frank Filz wrote:
> > > > On Sep 20, 2017, at 10:45 AM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.o
> > > > rg>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:40:45AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> > > > > File handles suddenly change and lock state vanishes after a
> > > > > live
> > > > > migration event, both of which would be catastrophic for
> > > > > hypervisor
> > > > > mount points.
> > > >
> > > > They're talking about a Ganesha/Ceph backend. It should be able
> > > > to
> > > > preserve filehandles.
> > >
> > > That's only one possible implementation. I'm thinking in terms of
> > > what
> >
> > needs
> > > to be documented for interoperability purposes.
> >
> > It seems like live migration pretty much requires a back end that
> > will
> > preserve file handles.
> >
> > > > Lock migration will require server-side implementation work but
> > > > not
> > > > protocol changes that I'm aware of.
> > > >
> > > > It could be a lot of implementation work, though.
> > >
> > > Agreed.
> >
> > I think the lock migration can be handled the way we handle state
> > migration
> > in an HA environment - where we treat it as a server reboot to the
> > client
> > (so SM_NOTIFY to v3 clients, the various errors v4 uses to signal
> > server
> > reboot, in either case, the client will initiate lock reclaim).
> >
>
> Mind showing us an architecture for that? As far as I can see, the
> layering is as follows:
>
> VM client
> --------------
> host knfsd
> --------------
> host client
> --------------
> Storage server
>
> So how would you notify the VM client that its locks have been
> migrated?
All I've seen mentioned in this thread is
VM client
---------
host Ganesha
---------
Ceph or Gluster
Did I misunderstand?
NFS proxying would certainly make it all more entertaining.
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-20 18:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-13 10:26 [PATCH nfs-utils v3 00/14] add NFS over AF_VSOCK support Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 01/14] mount: don't use IPPROTO_UDP for address resolution Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 02/14] nfs-utils: add vsock.h Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 03/14] nfs-utils: add AF_VSOCK support to sockaddr.h Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 04/14] mount: present AF_VSOCK addresses Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 05/14] mount: accept AF_VSOCK in nfs_verify_family() Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 06/14] mount: generate AF_VSOCK clientaddr Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 07/14] getport: recognize "vsock" netid Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 08/14] mount: AF_VSOCK address parsing Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 09/14] exportfs: introduce host_freeaddrinfo() Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 10/14] exportfs: add AF_VSOCK address parsing and printing Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 11/14] exportfs: add AF_VSOCK support to set_addrlist() Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 12/14] exportfs: add support for "vsock:" exports(5) syntax Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 13/14] nfsd: add --vsock (-v) option to nfsd Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 14/14] tests: add "vsock:" exports(5) test case Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 16:21 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 00/14] add NFS over AF_VSOCK support Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [nfsv4] " David Noveck
2017-09-13 18:21 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-15 11:52 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 22:39 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-14 15:39 ` Steve Dickson
2017-09-14 15:55 ` Steve Dickson
2017-09-14 17:37 ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 11:07 ` Jeff Layton
2017-09-15 15:17 ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 23:29 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-16 14:55 ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 13:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-15 13:31 ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 13:59 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-15 16:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-16 15:55 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-18 18:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-19 9:31 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-19 14:35 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-19 15:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-19 15:48 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-19 16:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-19 17:24 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-21 17:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-22 9:55 ` Steven Whitehouse
2017-09-22 11:32 ` Jeff Layton
2017-09-22 12:08 ` Matt Benjamin
2017-09-22 12:26 ` Jeff Layton
2017-09-22 15:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-22 16:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 18:31 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-25 8:14 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-25 10:31 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-22 11:43 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-22 11:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 12:00 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-22 12:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 19:14 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-25 8:30 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-26 2:08 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-26 3:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-26 10:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-26 11:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-26 18:32 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-27 0:45 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-27 13:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-27 22:21 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-28 10:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-27 13:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-27 22:25 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-26 13:39 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-26 13:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-27 12:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-27 13:46 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 10:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-19 17:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-19 19:56 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-19 20:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-19 21:09 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-20 13:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-20 14:40 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-20 14:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-20 14:59 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-20 15:25 ` Frank Filz
2017-09-20 18:17 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-09-20 18:34 ` bfields [this message]
2017-09-20 18:38 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-09-21 16:20 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-20 14:58 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-20 16:39 ` J. Bruce Fields
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