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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matt Benjamin <mbenjami@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	Justin Mitchell <jumitche@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH nfs-utils v3 00/14] add NFS over AF_VSOCK support
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:14:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170922191457.GA4786@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170922115524.GN12725@redhat.com>

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 12:55:24PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 07:43:39AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> > If firewall configuration is a chronic problem, let's address that.
> 
> This just isn't practical in the general case. Even on a single Linux OS
> distro there are multiple ways to manage firewalls (Fedora as a static
> init script, or firewalld, and many users invent their own personal way
> of doing it). There are countless other OS, many closed source with 3rd
> party firewall products in use. And then there are the firewall policies
> defined by organization's IT departments that mandate particular ways of
> doing things with layers of approval to go through to get changes made.
> 
> IOW, while improving firewall configuraiton is a worthy goal, it isn't
> a substitute for host<->guest file system sharing over a non-network
> based transport. 

I guess what's confusing to me is you're already depending on a ton of
assumptions about the guest:

	- it has to be running a recent kernel with NFS/VSOCK support.
	- it has to have all the nfs-utils userspace stuff, a
	  /usr/bin/mount that works the way you expect, and an
	  /etc/nfsmount.conf that doesn't have any odd options.
	- it has to have a suitable mount point somewhere that the admin
	  knows about.
	- probably lots of other stuff

It's odd that the firewall configuration is the one step too far.

As long as we've got all these requirements on guests, is there no
chance we could add a requirement like "if you want shared filesystems,
outbound tcp connections to port 2049 must be permitted on interface
vhost0".  ?

--b.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-22 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-13 10:26 [PATCH nfs-utils v3 00/14] add NFS over AF_VSOCK support Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 01/14] mount: don't use IPPROTO_UDP for address resolution Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 02/14] nfs-utils: add vsock.h Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 03/14] nfs-utils: add AF_VSOCK support to sockaddr.h Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 04/14] mount: present AF_VSOCK addresses Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 05/14] mount: accept AF_VSOCK in nfs_verify_family() Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 06/14] mount: generate AF_VSOCK clientaddr Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 07/14] getport: recognize "vsock" netid Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 08/14] mount: AF_VSOCK address parsing Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 09/14] exportfs: introduce host_freeaddrinfo() Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 10/14] exportfs: add AF_VSOCK address parsing and printing Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 11/14] exportfs: add AF_VSOCK support to set_addrlist() Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 12/14] exportfs: add support for "vsock:" exports(5) syntax Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 13/14] nfsd: add --vsock (-v) option to nfsd Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 14/14] tests: add "vsock:" exports(5) test case Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 16:21 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 00/14] add NFS over AF_VSOCK support Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-13 18:18   ` [nfsv4] " David Noveck
2017-09-13 18:21     ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-15 11:52       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 22:39 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-14 15:39 ` Steve Dickson
2017-09-14 15:55   ` Steve Dickson
2017-09-14 17:37     ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 11:07       ` Jeff Layton
2017-09-15 15:17         ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 23:29           ` NeilBrown
2017-09-16 14:55             ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 13:12       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-15 13:31         ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 13:59           ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-15 16:42             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-16 15:55               ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-18 18:09                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-19  9:31                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-19 14:35                     ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-19 15:10                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-19 15:48                         ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-19 16:44                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-19 17:24                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-21 17:00                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-22  9:55                                 ` Steven Whitehouse
2017-09-22 11:32                                   ` Jeff Layton
2017-09-22 12:08                                     ` Matt Benjamin
2017-09-22 12:26                                       ` Jeff Layton
2017-09-22 15:28                                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-22 16:23                                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 18:31                                             ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-25  8:14                                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-25 10:31                                                 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-22 11:43                                   ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-22 11:55                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 12:00                                       ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-22 12:10                                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 19:14                                       ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2017-09-25  8:30                                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-26  2:08                                       ` NeilBrown
2017-09-26  3:40                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-26 10:56                                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-26 11:07                                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-26 18:32                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-27  0:45                                             ` NeilBrown
2017-09-27 13:05                                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-27 22:21                                                 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-28 10:44                                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-27 13:35                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-27 22:25                                                 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-26 13:39                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-26 13:42                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-27 12:22                                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-27 13:46                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 10:34                                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-19 17:37                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-19 19:56                             ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-19 20:42                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-19 21:09                                 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-20 13:16                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-20 14:40                                     ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-20 14:45                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-20 14:59                                         ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-20 15:25                                           ` Frank Filz
2017-09-20 18:17                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2017-09-20 18:34                                               ` bfields
2017-09-20 18:38                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-09-21 16:20                                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-20 14:58                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-20 16:39                                       ` J. Bruce Fields

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