From: "bfields@fieldses.org" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@primarydata.com>
Cc: Thomas Haynes <loghyr@primarydata.com>,
"loghyr@excfb.com" <loghyr@excfb.com>,
"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"nfsv4@ietf.org" <nfsv4@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: pynfs replay cache test SEQ9f
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 14:50:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171013185015.GA15087@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1507908409.9498.14.camel@primarydata.com>
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 03:26:51PM +0000, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-10-13 at 11:00 -0400, bfields@fieldses.org wrote:
> > OK, OK, I'll look into fixing the server (I'm pretty sure we get this
> > wrong).
> >
> > You've explained the ctrl-C case before and I don't think I
> > understood
> > it. I guess otherwise the only way for the client to sort out the
> > situation would be to retry the original request. And that requires
> > keeping the arguments and credentials around to handle potential
> > retries. And that's impractical if the process is going away? OK.
> >
>
> Right, we're not going to do that just for data that is just going to
> be tossed away anyway. We already guarantee that non-idempotent
> operations (the ones that we actually do ask the server to cache) are
> guaranteed to complete whether or not the user presses ^C, so this is
> mainly about what happens when somebody interrupts an operation that we
> did not want the server to cache.
>
> I have a patch out there that just replays a SEQUENCE op if we detect
> that an RPC call was interrupted. That should be sufficient to deal
> with servers that cache everything (whether or not the client sets
> sa_cachethis), but don't want to do NFS4ERR_SEQ_FALSE_RETRY. That
> particular combination has been seen to be extremely toxic to the
> current client, because it can get replayed LOOKUP or GETATTR requests
> after someone presses ^C.
Those all involve uncached compounds with more than one op. My reading
of knfsd code is that it will return RETRY_UNCACHED_REP in this case,
and I think (I might be misunderstanding) that the client will bump the
slot seqid and retry in that case. So I *think* you shouldn't be seeing
that problem with knfsd?
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-13 18:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-11 16:48 [PATCH] Args need to be the same for replay cache Thomas Haynes
2017-10-12 18:32 ` pynfs replay cache test SEQ9f Thomas Haynes
2017-10-12 19:30 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-10-12 19:49 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-10-12 21:39 ` [nfsv4] " Thomas Haynes
2017-10-12 21:44 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-10-12 22:00 ` Tom Haynes
2017-10-13 1:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-10-13 13:34 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-10-13 15:00 ` bfields
2017-10-13 15:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-10-13 18:50 ` bfields [this message]
2017-10-13 20:19 ` bfields
2017-10-17 21:31 ` bfields
2017-10-16 16:15 ` [nfsv4] " Frank Filz
2018-04-10 19:49 ` [PATCH] Args need to be the same for replay cache J. Bruce Fields
2018-04-24 20:10 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2018-04-24 22:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
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