From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Wang Yugui <wangyugui@e16-tech.com>,
Ulli Horlacher <framstag@rus.uni-stuttgart.de>,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] NFSD: handle BTRFS subvolumes better.
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 18:10:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210720221044.GD19507@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e1d9caad-e4c7-09d4-b145-5397b24e1cc7@toxicpanda.com>
On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 02:01:11PM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
> The problem I ran into was the automount stuff requires that we have a
> completely different superblock for every vfsmount. This is fine for
> things like nfs or samba where the automount literally points to a
> completely different mount, but doesn't work for btrfs where it's on
> the same file system. If you have 1000 subvolumes and run sync()
> you're going to write the superblock 1000 times for the same file
> system.
Dumb question: why do you have to write the superblock 1000 times, and
why is that slower than writing to 1000 different filesystems?
> You are
> going to reclaim inodes on the same file system 1000 times. You are
> going to reclaim dcache on the same filesytem 1000 times. You are
> also going to pin 1000 dentries/inodes into memory whenever you
> wander into these things because the super is going to hold them
> open.
That last part at least is the same for the 1000-different-filesystems
case, isn't it?
--b.
> This is not a workable solution. It's not a matter of simply tying
> into existing infrastructure, we'd have to completely rework how the
> VFS deals with this stuff in order to be reasonable. And when I
> brought this up to Al he told me I was insane and we absolutely had
> to have a different SB for every vfsmount, which means we can't use
> vfsmount for this, which means we don't have any other options.
> Thanks,
>
> Josef
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-20 22:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-13 3:53 any idea about auto export multiple btrfs snapshots? Wang Yugui
2021-06-14 22:50 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-15 15:13 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-15 15:41 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-16 5:47 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-17 3:02 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-17 4:28 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-18 0:32 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-18 7:26 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-18 13:34 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-19 6:47 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-20 12:27 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-21 4:52 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-21 5:13 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-21 8:34 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-22 1:28 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-22 3:22 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-22 7:14 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-23 0:59 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-23 6:14 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-23 6:29 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-23 9:34 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-23 23:38 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-23 15:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-06-23 22:04 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-23 22:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-06-23 23:29 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-23 23:41 ` Frank Filz
2021-06-24 0:01 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-06-24 21:58 ` Patrick Goetz
2021-06-24 23:27 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-21 14:35 ` Frank Filz
2021-06-21 14:55 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-21 17:49 ` Frank Filz
2021-06-21 22:41 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-22 17:34 ` Frank Filz
2021-06-22 22:48 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-17 2:15 ` Wang Yugui
[not found] ` <20210310074620.GA2158@tik.uni-stuttgart.de>
[not found] ` <162632387205.13764.6196748476850020429@noble.neil.brown.name>
2021-07-15 14:09 ` [PATCH/RFC] NFSD: handle BTRFS subvolumes better Josef Bacik
2021-07-15 16:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-15 17:11 ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-15 17:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-15 18:01 ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-15 22:37 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-19 15:40 ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-19 20:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-19 20:44 ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-19 23:53 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-19 15:49 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-20 0:02 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-19 9:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-19 23:54 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-20 6:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-20 7:17 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-20 8:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-20 23:11 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-20 22:10 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2021-07-15 23:02 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-15 15:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-15 23:08 ` NeilBrown
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