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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, luis.turcitu@appsbroker.com,
	chris.chilvers@appsbroker.com, david.young@appsbroker.com,
	daire@dneg.com, david.oberhollenzer@sigma-star.at,
	david@sigma-star.at, trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com,
	anna.schumaker@netapp.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Dealing with NFS re-export and cross mounts
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:02:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220111200219.GE4035@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220110184419.27665-1-richard@nod.at>

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 07:44:16PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Currently when re-exporting a NFS share the NFS cross mount feature does
> not work [0].
> This RFC patch series outlines an approach to address the problem.
> 
> Crossing mounts does not work for two reasons:
> 
> 1. As soon the NFS client (on the re-exporting server) sees a different
> filesystem id, it installs an automount. That way the other filesystem
> will be mounted automatically when someone enters the directory.
> But the cross mount logic of KNFS does not know about automount.
> The three patches in this series address the problem and teach both KNFSD
> and the exportfs logic of NFS to deal with automount.
> 
> 2. When KNFSD detects crossing of a mount point, it asks rpc.mountd to install
> a new export for the target mount point. Beside of authentication rpc.mountd
> also has to find a filesystem id for the new export. Is the to be exported
> filesystem a NFS share, rpc.mountd cannot derive a filesystem id from it and
> refuses to export. In the logs you’ll see error such as:
> mountd: Cannot export /srv/nfs/vol0, possibly unsupported filesystem or fsid= required
> To deal with that I changed rpc.mountd to use an arbitrary fsid.
> Since this is a gross hack we need to agree on an approach to derive filesystem
> ids for NFS mounts.
> 
> rpc.mountd could:
> a) re-use the fsid from the original NFS server.
>    Beside of requesting this information, the problem with that approach is
>    that the original fsid might conflict with an existing export.
> b) derive the fsid from stat->st_dev.
> c) allocate a free fsid.
>  
> One use case to consider is load balancing. When multiple NFS servers re-export
> a NFS mount, they need to use the same fsid for crossed mounts.
> So I'm a little puzzled which approach is best. What do you think?
> 
> Known issues:
> - Only tested with NFSv3 (both server and client) so far.
> 
> [0] https://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=161653016627277&w=2

v4 testing would definitely be good, that's the case we'll care most
about.

--b.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-11 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-10 18:44 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Dealing with NFS re-export and cross mounts Richard Weinberger
2022-01-10 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] NFSD: Teach nfsd_mountpoint() auto mounts Richard Weinberger
2022-01-10 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] fs: namei: Allow follow_down() to uncover " Richard Weinberger
2022-01-10 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] NFS: nfs_encode_fh: Remove S_AUTOMOUNT check Richard Weinberger
2022-01-11 19:43 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Dealing with NFS re-export and cross mounts J. Bruce Fields
2022-01-11 20:01   ` J. Bruce Fields
2022-01-11 20:02 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]

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