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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Subject: [PATCH v16 25/26] nfs: add FAQ section to Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
Date: Thu,  5 Sep 2024 15:09:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240905191011.41650-26-snitzer@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240905191011.41650-1-snitzer@kernel.org>

From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>

Add a FAQ section to give answers to questions that have been raised
during review of the localio feature.

Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>
Co-developed-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
Reviewed-by: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Reviewed-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
---
 Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst | 86 +++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 86 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
index 3c9bc370079b..ef3851d48133 100644
--- a/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
+++ b/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
@@ -64,6 +64,92 @@ fio for 20 secs with directio, qd of 8, 1 libaio thread:
   128K read:  IOPS=24.4k, BW=3050MiB/s (3198MB/s)(59.6GiB/20001msec)
   128K write: IOPS=11.4k, BW=1430MiB/s (1500MB/s)(27.9GiB/20001msec)
 
+FAQ
+===
+
+1. What are the use cases for LOCALIO?
+
+   a. Workloads where the NFS client and server are on the same host
+      realize improved IO performance. In particular, it is common when
+      running containerised workloads for jobs to find themselves
+      running on the same host as the knfsd server being used for
+      storage.
+
+2. What are the requirements for LOCALIO?
+
+   a. Bypass use of the network RPC protocol as much as possible. This
+      includes bypassing XDR and RPC for open, read, write and commit
+      operations.
+   b. Allow client and server to autonomously discover if they are
+      running local to each other without making any assumptions about
+      the local network topology.
+   c. Support the use of containers by being compatible with relevant
+      namespaces (e.g. network, user, mount).
+   d. Support all versions of NFS. NFSv3 is of particular importance
+      because it has wide enterprise usage and pNFS flexfiles makes use
+      of it for the data path.
+
+3. Why doesn’t LOCALIO just compare IP addresses or hostnames when
+   deciding if the NFS client and server are co-located on the same
+   host?
+
+   Since one of the main use cases is containerised workloads, we cannot
+   assume that IP addresses will be shared between the client and
+   server. This sets up a requirement for a handshake protocol that
+   needs to go over the same connection as the NFS traffic in order to
+   identify that the client and the server really are running on the
+   same host. The handshake uses a secret that is sent over the wire,
+   and can be verified by both parties by comparing with a value stored
+   in shared kernel memory if they are truly co-located.
+
+4. Does LOCALIO improve pNFS flexfiles?
+
+   Yes, LOCALIO complements pNFS flexfiles by allowing it to take
+   advantage of NFS client and server locality.  Policy that initiates
+   client IO as closely to the server where the data is stored naturally
+   benefits from the data path optimization LOCALIO provides.
+
+5. Why not develop a new pNFS layout to enable LOCALIO?
+
+   A new pNFS layout could be developed, but doing so would put the
+   onus on the server to somehow discover that the client is co-located
+   when deciding to hand out the layout.
+   There is value in a simpler approach (as provided by LOCALIO) that
+   allows the NFS client to negotiate and leverage locality without
+   requiring more elaborate modeling and discovery of such locality in a
+   more centralized manner.
+
+6. Why is having the client perform a server-side file OPEN, without
+   using RPC, beneficial?  Is the benefit pNFS specific?
+
+   Avoiding the use of XDR and RPC for file opens is beneficial to
+   performance regardless of whether pNFS is used. Especially when
+   dealing with small files its best to avoid going over the wire
+   whenever possible, otherwise it could reduce or even negate the
+   benefits of avoiding the wire for doing the small file I/O itself.
+   Given LOCALIO's requirements the current approach of having the
+   client perform a server-side file open, without using RPC, is ideal.
+   If in the future requirements change then we can adapt accordingly.
+
+7. Why is LOCALIO only supported with UNIX Authentication (AUTH_UNIX)?
+
+   Strong authentication is usually tied to the connection itself. It
+   works by establishing a context that is cached by the server, and
+   that acts as the key for discovering the authorisation token, which
+   can then be passed to rpc.mountd to complete the authentication
+   process. On the other hand, in the case of AUTH_UNIX, the credential
+   that was passed over the wire is used directly as the key in the
+   upcall to rpc.mountd. This simplifies the authentication process, and
+   so makes AUTH_UNIX easier to support.
+
+8. How do export options that translate RPC user IDs behave for LOCALIO
+   operations (eg. root_squash, all_squash)?
+
+   Export options that translate user IDs are managed by nfsd_setuser()
+   which is called by nfsd_setuser_and_check_port() which is called by
+   __fh_verify().  So they get handled exactly the same way for LOCALIO
+   as they do for non-LOCALIO.
+
 RPC
 ===
 
-- 
2.44.0


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-05 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-05 19:09 [PATCH v16 00/26] nfs/nfsd: add support for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 01/26] nfs_common: factor out nfs_errtbl and nfs_stat_to_errno Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 02/26] nfs_common: factor out nfs4_errtbl and nfs4_stat_to_errno Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 03/26] nfs: factor out {encode,decode}_opaque_fixed to nfs_xdr.h Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 04/26] NFSD: Handle @rqstp == NULL in check_nfsd_access() Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 05/26] NFSD: Refactor nfsd_setuser_and_check_port() Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 06/26] NFSD: Avoid using rqstp->rq_vers in nfsd_set_fh_dentry() Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 07/26] NFSD: Short-circuit fh_verify tracepoints for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 08/26] nfsd: factor out __fh_verify to allow NULL rqstp to be passed Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 09/26] nfsd: add nfsd_file_acquire_local() Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 10/26] nfsd: add nfsd_serv_try_get and nfsd_serv_put Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 11/26] SUNRPC: remove call_allocate() BUG_ONs Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 12/26] SUNRPC: add svcauth_map_clnt_to_svc_cred_local Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 13/26] SUNRPC: replace program list with program array Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 14/26] nfs_common: add NFS LOCALIO auxiliary protocol enablement Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 15/26] nfs_common: prepare for the NFS client to use nfsd_file for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 16/26] nfsd: add LOCALIO support Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 17/26] nfsd: implement server support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 18/26] nfs: pass struct nfsd_file to nfs_init_pgio and nfs_init_commit Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 19/26] nfs: add LOCALIO support Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 20/26] nfs: enable localio for non-pNFS IO Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 21/26] pnfs/flexfiles: enable localio support Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 22/26] nfs/localio: use dedicated workqueues for filesystem read and write Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 23/26] nfs: implement client support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` [PATCH v16 24/26] nfs: add Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:09 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2024-09-05 19:10 ` [PATCH v16 26/26] nfs: add "NFS Client and Server Interlock" section to localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 23:38   ` NeilBrown

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