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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org,
	samba-technical@lists.samba.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	wine-devel@winehq.org, kfm-devel@kde.org,
	nautilus-list@gnome.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Extended file stat system call
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:25:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20656.1335450358@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH2r5ms4WQV3DnTvqNN=2N71Cj8UHwj8Z6+RHXgrAOv6mSoyQg@mail.gmail.com>

Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com> wrote:

> Would it be better to make the stable vs volatile inode number an attribute
> of the volume  or something returned by the proposed xstat?

I'm not sure what you mean by a stable vs a volatile inode number.

> > Should things like the Windows Archive, Hidden and System bits be handled
> > through IOC flags, perhaps expanded to 64-bits?
> 
> Today I export these through an psuedo-xattr in cifs.ko, I am curious how
> NTFS and FAT export these on linux.

NTFS: Not at all.

FAT: The hidden bit causes the filename to get a dot prepended (and nothing
else is noted).

> > Autofs, ntfs, btrfs, ...
> 
> Given the overlap in optional attributes between the network
> protocol and local NTFS (and ReFS and to a lesser extent FAT)
> I would expect cifs.ko and the ntfs implementations
> info to map pretty closely.

Yep.  I wasn't going to do more filesystems till we'd finished arguing about
the basic arrangement of things in struct xstat.

> > Handle remote filesystems being offline and indicate this with
> > XSTAT_INFO_OFFLINE.
> 
> You already have support for an indicator for offline files (HSM),

HSM?

> would XSTAT_INFO_OFFLINE be intended for the case
> where the network session to the server is disconnected
> (and in which you case the application does not want to reconnect)?

Hmmm...  Interesting question.  Both NTFS and CIFS have an offline attribute
(which is where I originally got this from) - but should I have a separate
indicator to indicate the client can't access a server over a network
(ie. we've gone to disconnected operation on this file)?  E.g. should there be
a XSTAT_INFO_DISCONNECTED too?

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-26 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-19 14:05 [PATCH 0/6] Extended file stat system call David Howells
2012-04-19 14:06 ` [PATCH 1/6] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available David Howells
2012-04-19 23:36   ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-24 21:29   ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-24 22:08     ` Steve French
2012-04-25 14:44     ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-26 13:45     ` David Howells
2012-04-26 14:28       ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-26 17:06         ` Steve French
2012-04-26 13:32   ` David Howells
2012-04-27  0:51     ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27  3:11       ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-26 13:40   ` David Howells
2012-04-26 14:23     ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-19 14:06 ` [PATCH 2/6] xstat: Ext4: Return extended attributes David Howells
2012-04-19 16:03   ` Steve French
2012-04-26 13:47   ` David Howells
2012-04-26 17:00     ` Steve French
2012-04-19 14:06 ` [PATCH 3/6] xstat: AFS: " David Howells
2012-04-19 14:06 ` [PATCH 4/6] xstat: NFS: " David Howells
2012-04-19 14:35   ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 13:52   ` David Howells
2012-04-19 14:07 ` [PATCH 5/6] xstat: CIFS: " David Howells
2012-04-19 15:19   ` Steve French
2012-04-19 14:07 ` [PATCH 6/6] xstat: eCryptFS: " David Howells
2012-04-19 16:32 ` [PATCH 0/6] Extended file stat system call Roland McGrath
2012-04-19 21:51   ` Paul Eggert
2012-04-19 23:05     ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 14:16     ` David Howells
2012-04-26 18:22       ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 14:04   ` David Howells
2012-04-26 18:24     ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-19 17:11 ` Steve French
2012-04-19 23:29 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-26 13:54 ` David Howells
2012-04-26 18:25   ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-27 23:54     ` Paul Eggert
2012-04-26 21:54   ` David Howells
2012-04-26 22:02     ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-26 22:21       ` Nix
2012-04-26 14:25 ` David Howells [this message]
2012-04-26 14:54   ` Steve French
2012-04-26 15:25     ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 16:56       ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:00         ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 17:03           ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:06             ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 17:09               ` Steve French
2012-04-26 17:10                 ` Steve French
2012-04-26 21:57             ` David Howells
2012-04-26 22:05               ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-27  0:33                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-27  0:30               ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-26 15:52   ` David Howells
2012-04-27  0:29     ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-27  9:19     ` David Howells
2012-04-27  1:06 ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27  3:22   ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-28  0:38     ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-28  0:54       ` Steve French
2012-04-27  9:39 ` David Howells
2012-04-27 13:13   ` Dave Chinner
2012-04-27 15:10     ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-04-27 16:32       ` Steve French
2012-04-27 19:31     ` Andreas Dilger
2012-04-28  0:58       ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-10  9:51       ` David Howells
2012-05-08 20:19 ` Extended file stat: Splitting file- and fs-specific info? David Howells
2012-05-08 21:13   ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-05-09  0:24   ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-09  1:09     ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-09  4:25       ` Dave Chinner
2012-05-09 11:14         ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-05-09  1:16     ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-10  9:23     ` David Howells
2012-05-10 16:05       ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-10 17:10       ` Roland McGrath
2012-05-11  8:54         ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-09  9:21   ` David Howells
2012-05-09 11:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-05-09 11:55       ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-09 12:05         ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-05-09 12:25           ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-09 13:51             ` Andreas Dilger
2012-05-09 14:12               ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-10  9:14   ` David Howells

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