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From: marc eshel <eshel.marc@gmail.com>
To: "Mkrtchyan, Tigran" <tigran.mkrtchyan@desy.de>,
	Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu>
Cc: Anna Schumaker <schumaker.anna@gmail.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
Subject: Re: NFS client to pNFS DS
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 12:50:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24bf013f-78af-4d05-80ae-1b35ed54c6a0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <685478263.45656552.1723405271880.JavaMail.zimbra@z-mbx-2>


On 8/11/24 12:41 PM, Mkrtchyan, Tigran wrote:
>> On 10. Aug 2024, at 23:20, Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 12:27 PM marc eshel <eshel.marc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 8/9/24 8:15 AM, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 10:09 AM marc eshel <eshel.marc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the replies, I am a little rusty with debugging NFS but this what I see when the NFS client tried to create a session with the DS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ganesha was configured for sec=sys and the client mount had the option sec=sys, I assume flavor 390004 means it was trying to use krb5i.
>>>> For 4.1, the client will always try to do state operations with krb5i
>>>> even when sec=sys when the client detects that it's configured to do
>>>> Kerberos (ie., gssd is running). This context creation is triggered
>>>> regardless of whether the rpc client is used for MDS or DS.
>>>>
>>>> My question to you: is the MDS configured with Kerberos but the DS
>>>> isn't? And also, does this lead to a failure?
>>> Both MDS DS are configured for sec=sys and it is leading to client
>>> switching from DS to MDS so yes, it is pNFS failure. What I see on the
>>> DS is the client creating a session and than imminently destroying it
>>> before committing it. If the is something else that I can debug I will
>>> be happy to.
>> pnfs failure is unexpected. I'm pretty confident that a non-kerberos
>> configured client can do normal pnfs with sec=sys. I can help debug,
> Yes, I can confirm that. All RHEL kernels and weekly -rc kernels from Linus works as expected. We mount always with sec=sys, and despite the fact, that hosts configured to support kerberos due to AFS and GPFS, the access to DSes is never an issue and never tries to use kerberos.
>
> Tigran.

Hi Tigran,

It is possible that it is failing back to MDS for another reason and the 
error message that I see is not the reason for the failure. Are you 
using pNFS with Ganesha and GPFS?

Marc.

>
>> if you want to send me a network trace and tracepoint output. Btw what
>> kernel/distro are you using?
>>
>>> Marc.
>>>
>>>>> Jul 30 11:10:58 svl-marcrh-node-1 kernel: RPC: Couldn't create
>>>>> auth handle (flavor 390004)
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/9/24 6:06 AM, Anna Schumaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 6:07 PM Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 5:51 PM marc eshel <eshel.marc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Trond,
>>>>>
>>>>> Will the Linux NFS client try to us krb5i regardless of the MDS
>>>>> configuration?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any option to avoid it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was under the impression the linux client has no way of choosing a
>>>>> different auth_gss security flavor for the DS than the MDS. Meaning
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a good point, I completely missed that this is specifically for the DS.
>>>>>
>>>>> that if mount command has say sec=krb5i then both MDS and DS
>>>>> connections have to do krb5i and if say the DS isn't configured for
>>>>> Kerberos, then IO would fallback to MDS. I no longer have a pnfs
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what I would expect, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> server to verify whether or not what I say is true but that is what my
>>>>> memory tells me is the case.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Marc.
>>>>>
>>>>> ul 30 11:10:58 svl-marcrh-node-1 kernel: nfs4_fl_alloc_deviceid_node
>>>>> stripe count 1
>>>>> Jul 30 11:10:58 svl-marcrh-node-1 kernel: nfs4_fl_alloc_deviceid_node
>>>>> ds_num 1
>>>>> Jul 30 11:10:58 svl-marcrh-node-1 kernel: RPC: Couldn't create
>>>>> auth handle (flavor 390004)
>>>>>
>>>>>

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-11 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <c4f1d8bf-745b-4a98-9d38-2da4c355d691@gmail.com>
2024-07-29 21:56 ` NFS client failure marc eshel
2024-08-05 21:51   ` NFS client to pNFS DS marc eshel
2024-08-08 14:22     ` Anna Schumaker
2024-08-08 22:07     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2024-08-09 13:06       ` Anna Schumaker
2024-08-09 14:29         ` marc eshel
     [not found]         ` <8ab0fd49-0c90-42bd-a34e-9dcf63a99bd5@gmail.com>
2024-08-09 15:15           ` Olga Kornievskaia
2024-08-09 16:26             ` marc eshel
2024-08-10 21:20               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2024-08-11 19:41                 ` Mkrtchyan, Tigran
2024-08-11 19:50                   ` marc eshel [this message]
2024-08-12  6:52                     ` Mkrtchyan, Tigran
2024-08-12 14:37                       ` marc eshel
2024-09-09 23:23                   ` marc eshel
2024-09-10  7:23                     ` Mkrtchyan, Tigran
2024-09-11  5:54                       ` Marc Eshel
2024-09-13 16:46                       ` pNFS client is not using the stripe value marc eshel

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