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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, samba-technical@lists.samba.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, drepper@redhat.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available [ver #6]
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:25:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <30638.1279801531@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.01.1007221248050.9353@obet.zrqbmnf.qr>

Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de> wrote:

> >> (8) Allow the filesystem to indicate what it can/cannot provide: A
> >>     filesystem can now say it doesn't support a standard stat feature if
> >>     that isn't available.
> >
> >What for?
> 
> Given xstat.otime=0, how would you determine whether the file is really 
> tagged with a date of 1970, or whether it's just the fs which didnot 
> store this kind of information.

I was thinking more of stuff that's already in the Linux stat struct, some of
which is fabricated because the underlying fs doesn't support it.

Take RomFS for example: it fabricates all of st_mtime, st_atime, st_ctime,
st_nlinks, st_blocks, st_uid and st_gid because none of them are stored in the
medium

Similarly, UbiFS fabricates st_blocks and complains in a comment that it makes
no sense for that type of filesystem.

There are other examples.

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-22 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-15  2:17 [PATCH 00/18] Extended file stat functions [ver #6] David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 01/18] Mark arguments to certain syscalls as being const " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available " David Howells
2010-07-15 20:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-15 21:53   ` David Howells
2010-07-16  6:22     ` Mark Harris
2010-07-16 10:24     ` David Howells
2010-07-16 11:02       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-16 12:38       ` David Howells
2010-07-16 13:32         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-17  5:51         ` Mark Harris
2010-07-17  9:00           ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <20100717055130.GA2053-EJgEOVOPJGBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-17  9:49           ` David Howells
2010-07-16 10:46     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-16 15:10     ` David Howells
2010-07-18  8:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-22 10:52     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 12:25     ` David Howells [this message]
2010-07-19 14:05   ` David Howells
2010-07-19 15:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-19 16:15   ` David Howells
2010-07-19 16:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-19 17:26     ` David Howells
2010-07-19 17:46       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-20  8:28         ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-22 10:35   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 12:14   ` David Howells
2010-07-22 12:17     ` Volker Lendecke
2010-07-22 13:05       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 15:14       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 15:36         ` Volker Lendecke
2010-07-22 15:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 16:06             ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 16:07               ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 16:25             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 16:27             ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 16:40               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 16:58                 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-22 18:02                   ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:04                     ` Volker Lendecke
2010-07-22 18:07                       ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:59                       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-30 17:55                         ` Phil Pishioneri
2010-07-30 18:11                           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-30 18:19                             ` Phil Pishioneri
2010-07-31 18:41                             ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-31 18:48                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-31 19:03                               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-31 21:20                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-08-01 13:17                             ` Jeff Layton
2010-07-22 18:05                     ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.LSU.2.01.1007222004430.4215-SHaQjdQMGhDmsUXKMKRlFA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:07                         ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 19:18                     ` John Stoffel
2010-07-22 17:03                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 17:16                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-22 17:36                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 17:24                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 18:15                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:21                     ` Benny Halevy
2010-07-22 18:45                       ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 19:53                         ` Benny Halevy
2010-07-22 18:41                     ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-28  1:15                     ` Neil Brown
2010-07-28 17:28                     ` David Howells
2010-07-28 23:04                       ` Neil Brown
2010-07-30 18:38                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-01 13:40                         ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-02 14:09                           ` Greg Freemyer
2010-08-02 14:42                             ` Jeff Layton
2010-07-29 16:15                       ` David Howells
2010-08-03  1:13                         ` Neil Brown
2010-07-22 17:12                 ` Jim Rees
2010-07-22 17:32                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-23  1:03                 ` tridge
2010-07-23  1:21                   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-07-23  2:12                     ` tridge
2010-07-23  9:14                     ` Björn Jacke
2010-07-30 21:22                 ` utz lehmann
2010-07-31  8:08                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-31 14:43                     ` utz lehmann
2010-08-01 13:25                   ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-05 23:52                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-06  3:38                       ` Neil Brown
2010-08-06  3:55                         ` Steve French
2010-08-06 11:18                           ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-06 23:30                           ` Neil Brown
2010-08-06 23:58                             ` Steve French
2010-08-07  0:29                               ` Neil Brown
2010-08-07  2:42                                 ` Steve French
2010-08-07  2:54                                   ` Steve French
2010-08-07  3:32                                     ` Neil Brown
2010-08-07 10:34                                       ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-07 11:04                                         ` Neil Brown
2010-08-08 12:12                         ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-08 12:53                           ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-08 13:05                             ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-13 12:54                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-13 17:54                                 ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-13 18:09                                   ` Steve French
2010-08-13 19:06                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-08-13 19:19                                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-16 18:04                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-16 18:08                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-16 19:07                                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-08 23:07                           ` Neil Brown
     [not found]           ` <AANLkTimwIq0pBhCeOjOVjB0y  <1280603032.3125.24.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
     [not found]             ` <1280603032.3125.24.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-01 16:18               ` utz lehmann
2010-07-22 15:46         ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 16:06         ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <AANLkTikBCXK6uEw <AANLkTimdFCGSKLn7aGMpBMIauHTsHY7hpAAmpo6uTcnD@mail.gmail.com>
2010-07-31 16:53         ` David Howells
2010-07-31 18:05           ` utz lehmann
2010-07-31 19:26           ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 03/18] AFS: Use i_generation not i_version for the vnode uniquifier " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 04/18] xstat: AFS: Return extended attributes " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 05/18] xstat: eCryptFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 06/18] xstat: Ext4: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 07/18] xstat: NFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 08/18] xstat: CIFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 09/18] xstat: Make special system filesystems return FS_SPECIAL_FL " David Howells
2010-07-18  8:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:09   ` David Howells
2010-07-27 13:41   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 10/18] xstat: Make network filesystems return FS_REMOTE_FL " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 11/18] xstat: Make automounter filesystems return FS_AUTOMOUNT_FL " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 12/18] xstat: Add a dentry op to handle automounting rather than abusing follow_link() " David Howells
2010-07-18  8:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:10   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 13/18] xstat: AFS: Use d_automount() " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 14/18] xstat: NFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 15/18] xstat: CIFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 16/18] xstat: Remove the automount through follow_link() kludge code from pathwalk " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 17/18] xstat: Add an AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT flag to suppress terminal automount " David Howells
     [not found] ` <20100715021709.5544.64506.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-15  2:17   ` [PATCH 18/18] xstat: Provide a mechanism to gather extra results for [f]xstat() " David Howells
     [not found]     ` <20100715021730.5544.68442.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-18  8:51       ` Christoph Hellwig

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