From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@gmail.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
trondmy@primarydata.com, Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:CONTROL GROUP (CGROUP)" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 16:30:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3118.1495553419@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1495551292.2742620.985957224.3FCF254A@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org> wrote:
> Why not drop the upcall model in favor of having userspace monitor events
> via a (more efficient) protocol and react to them on its own?
(1) That's not necessarily more efficient. You now have the overhead of a
permanently running userspace daemon in every relevant namespace
combination.
(2) You then have to work out how to route to the appropriate daemon.
> It's just generally more flexible
Actually, it's less flexible. You can't easily get at the caller's
namespaces.
> and avoids all of those issues like replicating the seccomp configuration,
> etc.
So does my container implementation.
> Something like inotify/signalfd could be a precedent around having a read()/poll()able
> fd. /proc/keys-requests ?
>
> Then if you create a new user namespace, and open /proc/keys-requests, the
> kernel will always write to that instead of calling /sbin/request-key.
That's not good enough. You're basically making it one daemon per user
namespace and ignoring all the other namespaces.
[Also note that the kernel would have to paste a temporary authorisation key
into the daemon's session keyring for each key that requires instantiation].
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-23 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-22 16:22 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 1/9] containers: Rename linux/container.h to linux/container_dev.h David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 2/9] Implement containers as kernel objects David Howells
2017-08-14 5:47 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-08-16 22:21 ` Paul Moore
2017-08-18 8:03 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-09-06 14:03 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-09-14 5:47 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-09-08 20:02 ` Paul Moore
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 3/9] Provide /proc/containers David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 4/9] Allow processes to be forked and upcalled into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 5/9] Open a socket inside " David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 6/9] Allow fs syscall dfd arguments to take a container fd David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 7/9] Make fsopen() able to initiate mounting into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 8/9] Honour CONTAINER_NEW_EMPTY_FS_NS David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 9/9] Sample program for driving container objects David Howells
2017-05-22 16:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects James Bottomley
2017-05-22 17:14 ` Aleksa Sarai
2017-05-22 17:27 ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 18:34 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-22 19:21 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-22 22:14 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 10:35 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 9:38 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 14:53 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 14:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:14 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:44 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 16:36 ` David Howells
2017-05-24 8:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-24 9:16 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-22 17:11 ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 19:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-22 22:22 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 12:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 14:27 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 14:30 ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-23 14:54 ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 15:31 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 15:35 ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 15:30 ` David Howells [this message]
2017-05-23 14:23 ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-27 17:45 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-05-27 19:10 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 10:09 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 13:52 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:02 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 15:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:12 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 16:13 ` David Howells
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