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From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Olga Kornievskaia <okorniev@redhat.com>,
	Dai Ngo <Dai.Ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nfsd: validate the nfsd_serv pointer before calling svc_wake_up
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 09:03:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37fb186b-ffb6-44dc-a097-ec669079c801@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac965f67-db15-4f93-be03-878e6a3d171b@oracle.com>

On 1/27/25 8:39 AM, Chuck Lever wrote:
> On 1/27/25 8:32 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
>> On Mon, 2025-01-27 at 08:22 -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
>>> On 1/27/25 8:07 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2025-01-27 at 11:15 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 2025-01-27 at 08:53 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2025-01-26 at 13:39 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> nfsd_file_dispose_list_delayed can be called from the filecache
>>>>>>>>>> laundrette, which is shut down after the nfsd threads are shut 
>>>>>>>>>> down and
>>>>>>>>>> the nfsd_serv pointer is cleared. If nn->nfsd_serv is NULL 
>>>>>>>>>> then there
>>>>>>>>>> are no threads to wake.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ensure that the nn->nfsd_serv pointer is non-NULL before calling
>>>>>>>>>> svc_wake_up in nfsd_file_dispose_list_delayed. This is safe 
>>>>>>>>>> since the
>>>>>>>>>> svc_serv is not freed until after the filecache laundrette is 
>>>>>>>>>> cancelled.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fixes: ffb402596147 ("nfsd: Don't leave work of closing files 
>>>>>>>>>> to a work queue")
>>>>>>>>>> Reported-by: Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/linux- 
>>>>>>>>>> nfs/7d9f2a8aede4f7ca9935a47e1d405643220d7946.camel@kernel.org/
>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> This is only lightly tested, but I think it will fix the bug that
>>>>>>>>>> Salvatore reported.
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>    fs/nfsd/filecache.c | 11 ++++++++++-
>>>>>>>>>>    1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/fs/nfsd/filecache.c b/fs/nfsd/filecache.c
>>>>>>>>>> index 
>>>>>>>>>> e91c164b5ea21507659904690533a19ca43b1b64..fb2a4469b7a3c077de2dd750f43239b4af6d37b0 100644
>>>>>>>>>> --- a/fs/nfsd/filecache.c
>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/fs/nfsd/filecache.c
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -445,11 +445,20 @@ nfsd_file_dispose_list_delayed(struct 
>>>>>>>>>> list_head *dispose)
>>>>>>>>>>                            struct nfsd_file, nf_gc);
>>>>>>>>>>            struct nfsd_net *nn = net_generic(nf->nf_net, 
>>>>>>>>>> nfsd_net_id);
>>>>>>>>>>            struct nfsd_fcache_disposal *l = nn->fcache_disposal;
>>>>>>>>>> +        struct svc_serv *serv;
>>>>>>>>>>            spin_lock(&l->lock);
>>>>>>>>>>            list_move_tail(&nf->nf_gc, &l->freeme);
>>>>>>>>>>            spin_unlock(&l->lock);
>>>>>>>>>> -        svc_wake_up(nn->nfsd_serv);
>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>> +        /*
>>>>>>>>>> +         * The filecache laundrette is shut down after the
>>>>>>>>>> +         * nn->nfsd_serv pointer is cleared, but before the
>>>>>>>>>> +         * svc_serv is freed.
>>>>>>>>>> +         */
>>>>>>>>>> +        serv = nn->nfsd_serv;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wonder if this should be READ_ONCE() to tell the compiler 
>>>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>>>> could race with clearing nn->nfsd_serv.  Would the comment 
>>>>>>>>> still be
>>>>>>>>> needed?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we need a comment at least. The linkage between the 
>>>>>>>> laundrette
>>>>>>>> and the nfsd_serv being set to NULL is very subtle. A READ_ONCE()
>>>>>>>> doesn't convey that well, and is unnecessary here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you say "is unnecessary here" ?
>>>>>>> If the code were
>>>>>>>      if (nn->nfsd_serv)
>>>>>>>               svc_wake_up(nn->nfsd_serv);
>>>>>>> that would be wrong as nn->nfds_serv could be set to NULL between 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>> And the C compile is allowed to load the value twice because the 
>>>>>>> C memory
>>>>>>> model declares that would have the same effect.
>>>>>>> While I doubt it would actually change how the code is compiled, 
>>>>>>> I think
>>>>>>> we should have READ_ONCE() here (and I've been wrong before about 
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> the compiler will actually do).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's unnecessary because the outcome of either case is acceptable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When racing with shutdown, either it's NULL and the laundrette won't
>>>>>> call svc_wake_up(), or it's non-NULL and it will. In the non-NULL 
>>>>>> case,
>>>>>> the call to svc_wake_up() will be a no-op because the threads are 
>>>>>> shut
>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The vastly common case in this code is that this pointer will be non-
>>>>>> NULL, because the server is running (i.e. not racing with 
>>>>>> shutdown). I
>>>>>> don't see the need in making all of those accesses volatile.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of us is confused.  I hope it isn't me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's probably me. I think you have a much better understanding of
>>>> compiler design than I do. Still...
>>>>
>>>>> The hypothetical problem I see is that the C compiler could generate
>>>>> code to load the value "nn->nfsd_serv" twice.  The first time it is 
>>>>> not
>>>>> NULL, the second time it is NULL.
>>>>> The first is used for the test, the second is passed to svc_wake_up().
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlikely though this is, it is possible and READ_ONCE() is designed
>>>>> precisely to prevent this.
>>>>> To quote from include/asm-generic/rwonce.h it will
>>>>>    "Prevent the compiler from merging or refetching reads"
>>>>>
>>>>> A "volatile" access does not add any cost (in this case).  What it 
>>>>> does
>>>>> is break any aliasing that the compile might have deduced.
>>>>> Even if the compiler thinks it has "nn->nfsd_serv" in a register, it
>>>>> won't think it has the result of READ_ONCE(nn->nfsd_serv) in that 
>>>>> register.
>>>>> And if it needs the result of a previous READ_ONCE(nn->nfsd_serv) it
>>>>> won't decide that it can just read nn->nfsd_serv again.  It MUST keep
>>>>> the result of READ_ONCE(nn->nfsd_serv) somewhere until it is not 
>>>>> needed
>>>>> any more.
>>>>
>>>> I'm mainly just considering the resulting pointer. There are two
>>>> possible outcomes to the fetch of nn->nfsd_serv. Either it's a valid
>>>> pointer that points to the svc_serv, or it's NULL. The resulting code
>>>> can handle either case, so it doesn't seem like adding READ_ONCE() will
>>>> create any material difference here.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I should ask it this way: What bad outcome could result if we
>>>> don't add READ_ONCE() here?
>>>
>>> Neil just described it. The compiler would generate two load operations,
>>> one for the test and one for the function call argument. The first load
>>> can retrieve a non-NULL address, and the second a NULL address.
>>>
>>> I agree a READ_ONCE() is necessary.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Now I'm confused:
>>
>>                  struct svc_serv *serv;
>>
>>         [...]
>>
>>                  /*
>>                   * The filecache laundrette is shut down after the
>>                   * nn->nfsd_serv pointer is cleared, but before the
>>                   * svc_serv is freed.
>>                   */
>>                  serv = nn->nfsd_serv;
>>                  if (serv)
>>                          svc_wake_up(serv);
>>
>> This code is explicitly asking to fetch nn->nfsd_serv into the serv
>> variable, and then is testing that copy of the pointer and passing it
>> into svc_wake_up().
>>
>> How is the compiler allowed to suddenly refetch a NULL pointer into
>> serv after testing that serv is non-NULL?
> 
> There's nothing here that tells the compiler it is not allowed to
> optimize this into two separate fetches if it feels that is better
> code. READ_ONCE is what tells the compiler we do not want that re-
> organization /ever/.
> 
> 

Well, I think you can argue that even if the compiler does split this
code into two reads of nn->nfsd_serv, it is guaranteed that the read
value is always the same both times -- I guess that's that the comment
is arguing, yes?

I just wonder what will happen if that guarantee should happen to change
in the future.


-- 
Chuck Lever

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-27 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-26  1:13 [PATCH] nfsd: validate the nfsd_serv pointer before calling svc_wake_up Jeff Layton
2025-01-26  2:39 ` NeilBrown
2025-01-26 12:36   ` Jeff Layton
2025-01-26 21:53     ` NeilBrown
2025-01-26 22:48       ` Jeff Layton
2025-01-27  0:15         ` NeilBrown
2025-01-27 13:07           ` Jeff Layton
2025-01-27 13:22             ` Chuck Lever
2025-01-27 13:32               ` Jeff Layton
2025-01-27 13:39                 ` Chuck Lever
2025-01-27 14:03                   ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2025-01-27 14:34                     ` Jeff Layton
2025-01-27 22:11                       ` NeilBrown
2025-01-27 22:16                     ` NeilBrown
2025-01-26 18:58 ` cel
2025-01-28 17:07 ` cel
2025-01-29 21:13   ` NeilBrown

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