From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de>,
trondmy@primarydata.com, mszeredi@redhat.com,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, jlayton@redhat.com,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 17:36:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3860.1495557363@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1495554267.27369.9.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> wrote:
> What David is pointing out is that the kernel has a DNS cache
> (net/dns_resolver/) it can do name to IP translations, but isn't
> namespaced. Once it has one entry all containers would see it if they
> cause a lookup to go through the kernel cache, so going through the
> cache you can't have a name resolving to different IP addresses on a
> per container basis.
Yes - and the transport to userspace, the request_key() upcall, isn't
namespaced either. Namespacing it isn't entirely simple since we have to set
the right mount namespace (for execve, config, etc.), plus any other relevant
namespaces (such as network) - which is dependent on key type.
I can't record the mount namespace in the network namespace because that would
create a dependency loop:
mnt_ns -> mnt -> sb -> net_ns -> mnt_ns
> I think Eric's point is that if you need the same DNS names resolving
> to different IP addresses on a per container basis, you can do this in
> userspace today but you have to disable the in-kernel DNS cache.
You could disable the in-kernel dns resolver in your config, but then you
don't get referrals in NFS. Also, CIFS, AFS and other filesystems would be
affected. If you're fine with the restrictions, then there is no problem.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-23 16:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-22 16:22 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 1/9] containers: Rename linux/container.h to linux/container_dev.h David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 2/9] Implement containers as kernel objects David Howells
2017-08-14 5:47 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-08-16 22:21 ` Paul Moore
2017-08-18 8:03 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-09-06 14:03 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-09-14 5:47 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-09-08 20:02 ` Paul Moore
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 3/9] Provide /proc/containers David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 4/9] Allow processes to be forked and upcalled into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 5/9] Open a socket inside " David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 6/9] Allow fs syscall dfd arguments to take a container fd David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 7/9] Make fsopen() able to initiate mounting into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 8/9] Honour CONTAINER_NEW_EMPTY_FS_NS David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 9/9] Sample program for driving container objects David Howells
2017-05-22 16:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects James Bottomley
2017-05-22 17:14 ` Aleksa Sarai
2017-05-22 17:27 ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 18:34 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-22 19:21 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-22 22:14 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 10:35 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 9:38 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 14:53 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 14:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:14 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:44 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 16:36 ` David Howells [this message]
2017-05-24 8:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-24 9:16 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-22 17:11 ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 19:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-22 22:22 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 12:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 14:27 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 14:30 ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-23 14:54 ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 15:31 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 15:35 ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 15:30 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 14:23 ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-27 17:45 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-05-27 19:10 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 10:09 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 13:52 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:02 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 15:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 15:12 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 15:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 16:13 ` David Howells
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