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From: Wendy Cheng <wcheng@redhat.com>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: cluster-devel@redhat.com, nfs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 0/4 Revised] NLM - lock failover
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:53:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4627826A.7040206@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17959.5245.635902.823441@notabene.brown>

Neil Brown wrote:
> On Tuesday April 17, wcheng@redhat.com wrote:
>   
>> In short, my vote is taking this (NLM) patch set and let people try it 
>> out while we switch our gear to look into other NFS V3 failover issues 
>> (nfsd in particular). Neil ?
>>     
>
> I agree with Christoph in that we should do it properly.
> That doesn't mean that we need a complete solution.  But we do want to
> make sure to avoid any design decisions that we might not want to be
> stuck with.  Sometimes that's unavoidable, but let's try a little
> harder for the moment.
>   

As any code review, set personal feeling aside, at the end of the day, 
you would start to appreciate some of the look-like-harsh comments. This 
instance is definitely one of that moments. I agree we should try harder.

NFS failover has been a difficult subject. There is a three-years-old 
Red Hat bugzilla asking for this feature, plus few others marked as 
duplicate. By reading through the comments last night, I do feel 
strongly that we should put restrictions on the implementation to avoid 
dragging users into another three more years.

> One thing that has been bothering me is that sometimes the
> "filesystem" (in the guise of an fsid) is used to talk to the kernel
> about failover issues (when flushing locks or restarting the grace
> period) and sometimes the local network address is used (when talking
> with statd). 
>
> I would rather use a single identifier.  In my previous email I was
> leaning towards using the filesystem as the single identifier.  Today
> I'm leaning the other way - to using the local network address.
>
> It works like this:
>
>   We have a module parameter for lockd something like
>   "virtual_server".
>   If that is set to 0, none of the following changes are effective.
>   If it is set to 1:
>
>    The destination address for any lockd request becomes part of the
>    key to find the nsm_handle.
>    The my_name field in SM_MON requests and SM_UNMON requests is set
>    to a textual representation of that destination address.
>    The reply to SM_MON (currently completely ignored by all versions
>    of Linux) has an extra value which indicates how many more seconds
>    of grace period there is to go.  This can be stuffed into res_stat
>    maybe.
>    Places where we currently check 'nlmsvc_grace_period', get moved to
>    *after* the nlmsvc_retrieve_args call, and the grace_period value
>    is extracted from host->nsm.
>
>   This is the full extent of the kernel changes.
>
>   To remove old locks, we arrange for the callbacks registered with
>   statd for the relevant clients to be called.
>   To set the grace period, we make sure statd knows about it and it
>   will return the relevant information to lockd.
>   To notify clients of the need to reclaim locks, we simple use the
>   information stored by statd, which contains the local network
>   address.
>
> The only aspect of this that gives me any cause for concern is
> overloading the return value for SM_MON.  Possibly it might be cleaner
> to define an SM_MON2 with different args or whatever.
> As this interface is entirely local to the one machine, and as it can
> quite easily be kept back-compatible, I think the concept is fine.
>
> Statd would need to pass the my_name field to the ha callout rather
> than replacing it with "127.0.0.1", but other than that I don't think
> any changes are needed to statd (though I haven't thought through that
> fully yet).
>
> Comments?
>
>   
Need sometime to look into the ramifications ... comment will follow soon.

-- Wendy


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-19 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-05 21:50 [PATCH 0/4 Revised] NLM - lock failover Wendy Cheng
2007-04-11 17:01 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-17 19:30 ` [Cluster-devel] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-18 18:56   ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-18 19:46     ` [Cluster-devel] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-19 14:41     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 15:08       ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-19  7:04   ` [Cluster-devel] " Neil Brown
2007-04-19 14:53     ` Wendy Cheng [this message]
2007-04-24  3:30     ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-24  5:52       ` Neil Brown
2007-04-26  4:35         ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-26  5:43           ` Neil Brown
2007-04-27  2:24             ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-27  6:00               ` Neil Brown
2007-04-27 11:15                 ` Jeff Layton
2007-04-27 12:40                   ` Neil Brown
2007-04-27 13:42                     ` Jeff Layton
2007-04-27 14:17                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-27 15:42                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-27 15:36                           ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-27 16:31                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-27 22:22                               ` Neil Brown
2007-04-29 20:13                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-29 23:10                                   ` Neil Brown
2007-04-30  5:19                                     ` Wendy Cheng
2007-05-04 18:42                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-05-04 21:35                                       ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-27 20:34                             ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-04-28  3:55                               ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-28  4:51                                 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-28  5:26                                   ` Marc Eshel
2007-04-28 12:33                                   ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-04-27 15:12                       ` Jeff Layton
2007-04-25 14:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-25 14:10   ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-25 15:21     ` Marc Eshel
2007-04-25 15:19       ` Wendy Cheng
2007-04-25 15:39         ` [Cluster-devel] " Wendy Cheng
2007-04-25 15:59     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-04-25 15:52       ` Wendy Cheng
2011-11-30 10:13 ` Pavel

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