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From: Benny Halevy <bhalevy@panasas.com>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Tom Tucker <tom@opengridcomputing.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/11] svcrdma: Add a type for keeping NFS RPC mapping
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:31:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48615992.3080007@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080624195838.GE15786@fieldses.org>

J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 09:58:21PM -0500, Tom Tucker wrote:
>> J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:31:43AM -0500, Tom Tucker wrote:
>>>   
>>>> J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:54:46PM -0500, Tom Tucker wrote:
>>>>>> diff --git a/net/sunrpc/xprtrdma/svc_rdma.c b/net/sunrpc/xprtrdma/svc_rdma.c
>>>>>> index 88c0ca2..545ea72 100644
>>>>>> --- a/net/sunrpc/xprtrdma/svc_rdma.c
>>>>>> +++ b/net/sunrpc/xprtrdma/svc_rdma.c
>>>>>> @@ -69,6 +69,9 @@ atomic_t rdma_stat_rq_prod;
>>>>>>  atomic_t rdma_stat_sq_poll;
>>>>>>  atomic_t rdma_stat_sq_prod;
>>>>>>  +/* Temporary NFS request map cache */
>>>>>> +struct kmem_cache *svc_rdma_map_cachep = NULL;
>>>>>>             
>>>>> No need to initialize globals to NULL.
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>> I thought only static objects were initialized per the C standard. Or 
>>>>  are you saying that this particular
>>>> global doesn't need to be initialized because of the way it is used?
>>>>     
>>> I don't know if the initialization is mandated by the standards or
>>> whether it's just gcc behavior, but I know I get a complaint every time
>>> somebody finds one of those....

The implicit initialization to zero was defined back then by K&R:
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~phister/K_n_R/chapter4.html#s4.9
"In the absence of explicit initialization, external and static variables
are guaranteed to be initialized to zero"

AFAIK this convention was kept by the C standards ever since.

>>>
>>>   
>> In this case, the initialization is unnecessary, so it can be safely dumped.
>>
>>> That may partly just be a preference for conciseness, but I think it may
>>> also allow gcc to put the thing in a different section and save some
>>> space in the on-disk kernel--I don't know.
>>>
>>>   
>> Right -- un-initialized data goes in a different section, the .bss  
>> section in particular. Since the .bss section is not "initialized",  
>> there are no values (zeroes in this case) sitting in the object file  
>> ready to be mapped into whatever location becomes .bss. By contrast, the  
>> .data section contains initialized data and the initial values are  
>> sitting in the object file.
>>
>> So my question here is a little subtler:
>>
>> A. Do we discard _all_ zero initializations of non-static globals  
>> because we can safely assume that .bss is initialzed (not a fan of  
>> this),  or

Also static locals...  What matters is that the variable has
static allocation, its scope is irrelevant to the initialization
issue.

Benny

>>
>> B. Don't be an idiot and initialize objects unnecessarily because it  
>> bloats the kernel object file?
>>
>> An idiot voting for  B,
> 
> My understanding is that it's A--e.g. checkpatch.pl has a dumb regex
> that just checks for these assignments and whines about them however
> they're used.
> 
> Google doesn't find me any more detailed discussion of the policy.
> 
> --b.
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-24 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <12120836962076-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
2008-05-29 22:10 ` [PATCH 0/11] svcrdma: WR context management bug fixes and cleanup J. Bruce Fields
2008-05-29 22:25   ` Tom Tucker
     [not found]     ` <1212099937.22478.3.camel-SMNkleLxa3ZimH42XvhXlA@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-29 22:26       ` Roland Dreier
     [not found] ` <12120836962324-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
2008-06-16 19:48   ` [PATCH 01/11] svcrdma: Add a type for keeping NFS RPC mapping J. Bruce Fields
2008-06-21 16:31     ` Tom Tucker
2008-06-23 18:27       ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-06-24  2:58         ` Tom Tucker
2008-06-24 19:58           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-06-24 20:31             ` Benny Halevy [this message]
2008-06-24 20:38             ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]   ` <12120836963727-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
2008-06-16 21:04     ` [PATCH 02/11] svcrdma: Use RPC reply map for RDMA_WRITE processing J. Bruce Fields
2008-06-21 16:26       ` Tom Tucker
2008-06-23 18:21         ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-06-24  2:29           ` Tom Tucker
2008-06-21 16:51       ` Tom Tucker
2008-06-23 18:51         ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-06-24  3:02           ` Tom Tucker
     [not found]     ` <1212083697950-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found]       ` <1212083697236-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found]         ` <12120836973390-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found]           ` <12120836973638-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found]             ` <12120836973072-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found]               ` <12120836972503-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found]                 ` <12120836973166-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found]                   ` <12120836972648-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
2008-06-16 21:24                     ` [PATCH 10/11] svcrdma: Create a kmem cache for the WR contexts J. Bruce Fields
2008-06-21 17:08                       ` Tom Tucker
2008-07-03  2:27 [PATCH 00/11] svcrdma: WR context management bug fixes and cleanup Tom Tucker
2008-07-03  2:27 ` [PATCH 01/11] svcrdma: Add a type for keeping NFS RPC mapping Tom Tucker

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