From: Tom Tucker <tom@opengridcomputing.com>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: thomas.talpey@netapp.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/12] svcrdma: Add a message log string to indicate if FastReg is being used
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:46:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48EE5193.2090702@opengridcomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081009162623.GD28785@fieldses.org>
J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 01:37:05AM -0500, Tom Tucker wrote:
>> J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 04:33:48PM -0500, Tom Tucker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Add a log message that allows the administrator to determine if server memory
>>>> is exposed on a particular client connection. This message can be disabled
>>>> by writing 0 to the /proc/sys/sunrpc/svc_rdma/show_conn_info file.
>>>>
>>> I could grudgingly live with the idea of a log message here as a
>>> temporary fix while we figure out something better, but I'm not happy
>>> about making it bigger and adding a sysctl.
>>>
>>>
>> I would happily remove all of this. I believed you thought it important
>> that we actively informed the administrator.
>> Maybe I over-reacted.
>
> Well, I was probably unclear and/or confused, apologies. What I think
> would make sense for now would be just be some easy way we an
> administrator could answer the question "what kind of security model are
> my rdma interfaces using"?
>
> A cautious administrator will want to answer these questions before
> turning on nfs over rdma, so a log message on client connect isn't as
> useful. Also, messages to the log are fine for debugging, for notices
> about exceptional events, etc., but they aren't reliable for this kind
> of use (they get stored in distro-specific locations for varying amounts
> of time; wording may change across kernel versions, making them harder
> to grep for; etc).
>
> So these log messages might serve as a stopgap, but I'd prefer something
> that could be queried reliably at any time.
>
> If in addition we wanted to warn about the riskier case, maybe we could
> print a message *just* in that case (and print it only once), but I
> don't feel strongly about that.
>
>>> If we just want a hack for now, I'd be inclined to leave this printk a
>>> dprintk, add the extra information to the dprintk, and tell people to
>>> turn on transport debugging and watch a client connect. Ugly, but at
>>> least it'll be obvious it's not an api that's going to stick around.
>>>
>>>
>> Id' love to get rid of it...
>>> Beyond the short-term: is there some other way of getting this
>>> information from userspace? Since this is a property of the interface
>>> device, it'd seem natural to communicate the information in something
>>> like a sysfs file for the device, or whatever's used to query properties
>>> of network interfaces.
>>>
>>> I'm a bit surprised the information isn't already there. Aren't
>>> userspace applications eventually also supposed to be able to use rdma?
>>> Don't they need to query network interfaces for their capabilities?
>>>
>>>
>> All of this information is available from a full-function user-mode API.
>
> Oh, cool. So would it be difficult to write a C program that just
> printed out some basic information about the rdma-capable interfaces on
> the system? If it didn't have a lot of dependencies, we could even
> consider adding it to nfs-utils.
>
Coming up with a name for the command is probably
harder than writing it.
Here it is...
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <infiniband/verbs.h>
#define FAST_REG (1<<21) /* This will be in infiniband/verbs.h in the future */
static char *safety_string(struct ibv_device_attr *a, struct ibv_device *dev)
{
if (a->device_cap_flags & FAST_REG
|| dev->transport_type == IBV_TRANSPORT_IB)
return "Safe. NFSRDMA exposes only RPC memory.\n";
else
return "Unsafe. NFSRDMA exposes Server memory.\n";
}
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
struct ibv_device **dev_list;
struct ibv_context *context;
struct ibv_device_attr attr;
int dev_count;
int i;
dev_list = ibv_get_device_list(&dev_count);
for (i = 0; dev_list && i < dev_count; i++) {
printf("%-20s: ", ibv_get_device_name(dev_list[i]));
context = ibv_open_device(dev_list[i]);
if (!context) {
printf("could not open device\n");
continue;
}
if (!ibv_query_device(context, &attr))
printf("%s\n", safety_string(&attr, dev_list[i]));
else
printf("could not query device\n");
ibv_close_device(context);
}
if (dev_list)
ibv_free_device_list(dev_list);
exit(0);
}
> The one drawback is that it wouldn't be able to tell whether the
> currently running kernel actually supported fast registration. Do you
> think a guess based on kernel version would be good enough for that?
>
I do, yes.
>> This code makes devices more secure than they used to be. So there is no
>> negative security regression here. This patchset simply improves the
>> security for newer devices that support the new features.
>
> Yes, agreed. Just to be clear, I *have* queued up all but these last
> two patches (the printk and documentation patches) for 2.6.28.
>
Ok, thanks.
> --b.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-09 18:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-03 21:33 [PATCH 00/12] svcrdma: Fast memory registration support Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 01/12] svcrdma: Add Fast Reg MR Data Types Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 02/12] svcrdma: Add FRMR get/put services Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 03/12] svcrdma: Query device for Fast Reg support during connection setup Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 04/12] svcrdma: Add a service to register a Fast Reg MR with the device Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 05/12] svcrdma: Modify post recv path to use local dma key Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 06/12] svcrdma: Add support to svc_rdma_send to handle chained WR Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 07/12] svcrdma: Modify the RPC recv path to use FRMR when available Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 08/12] svcrdma: Modify the RPC reply " Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 09/12] svcrdma: Update svc_rdma_send_error to use DMA LKEY Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 10/12] svcrdma: Fix IRD/ORD polarity Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 11/12] svcrdma: Add a message log string to indicate if FastReg is being used Tom Tucker
2008-10-03 21:33 ` [PATCH 12/12] svcrdma: Documentation update for the FastReg memory model Tom Tucker
2008-10-08 22:48 ` [PATCH 11/12] svcrdma: Add a message log string to indicate if FastReg is being used J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-09 6:37 ` Tom Tucker
2008-10-09 16:26 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-09 18:46 ` Tom Tucker [this message]
2008-10-10 21:02 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-13 2:18 ` Tom Tucker
2008-10-13 2:20 ` Tom Tucker
2008-10-22 20:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-22 21:37 ` Tom Tucker
2008-10-04 1:05 ` [PATCH 02/12] svcrdma: Add FRMR get/put services Tom Tucker
2008-10-06 20:02 ` Tom Tucker
2008-10-08 22:26 ` [PATCH 00/12] svcrdma: Fast memory registration support J. Bruce Fields
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