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From: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/4] nfsd: rework refcounting in filecache
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 13:58:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <494CEF8A-E9AD-400B-92E6-EEE3B2DB431D@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <432239da4d20337f6f14c91f40fb4432e637a662.camel@kernel.org>



> On Oct 28, 2022, at 4:13 PM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2022-10-28 at 19:49 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote:
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2022, at 2:57 PM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
>> I'm still not sold on the idea of a synchronous flush in nfsd_file_free().
> 
> I think that we need to call this there to ensure that writeback errors
> are handled. I worry that if try to do this piecemeal, we could end up
> missing errors when they fall off the LRU.
> 
>> That feels like a deadlock waiting to happen and quite difficult to
>> reproduce because I/O there is rarely needed. It could help to put a
>> might_sleep() in nfsd_file_fsync(), at least, but I would prefer not to
>> drive I/O in that path at all.
> 
> I don't quite grok the potential for a deadlock here. nfsd_file_free
> already has to deal with blocking activities due to it effective doing a
> close(). This is just another one. That's why nfsd_file_put has a
> might_sleep in it (to warn its callers).
> 
> What's the deadlock scenario you envision?

I never answered this question.

I'll say up front that I believe this problem exists in the current code
base, so what follows is meant to document an existing issue rather than
a problem with this patch series.

The filecache sets up a shrinker callback. This callback uses the same
or similar code paths as the filecache garbage collector.

Dai has found that trying to fsync inside a shrinker callback will
lead to deadlocks on some filesystems (notably I believe he was testing
btrfs at the time).

To address this, the filecache shrinker callback could avoid evicting
nfsd_file items that are open for write.


--
Chuck Lever




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-01 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-28 18:57 [PATCH v3 0/4] nfsd: clean up refcounting in the filecache Jeff Layton
2022-10-28 18:57 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] nfsd: remove the pages_flushed statistic from filecache Jeff Layton
2022-10-28 19:41   ` Chuck Lever III
2022-10-28 18:57 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] nfsd: rework refcounting in filecache Jeff Layton
2022-10-28 19:49   ` Chuck Lever III
2022-10-28 20:13     ` Jeff Layton
2022-10-28 20:39       ` Chuck Lever III
2022-10-28 21:03         ` Jeff Layton
2022-10-28 21:23           ` Chuck Lever III
2022-10-31  9:40             ` Jeff Layton
2022-11-01 13:58       ` Chuck Lever III [this message]
2022-11-01 14:19         ` Jeff Layton
2022-10-28 18:57 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] nfsd: close race between unhashing and LRU addition Jeff Layton
2022-10-28 19:50   ` Chuck Lever III
2022-10-28 20:04     ` Jeff Layton
2022-10-30 21:45     ` NeilBrown
2022-10-31  2:51       ` Chuck Lever III
2022-10-31 10:08         ` Jeff Layton
2022-10-31 13:14           ` Chuck Lever III
2022-10-31 13:28             ` Jeff Layton
2022-10-31 10:01       ` Jeff Layton
2022-10-28 18:57 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] nfsd: start non-blocking writeback after adding nfsd_file to the LRU Jeff Layton
2022-10-28 19:50   ` Chuck Lever III
2022-10-28 20:30     ` Jeff Layton
2022-10-28 20:57       ` Chuck Lever III
2022-10-31  9:36         ` Jeff Layton

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