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From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] make capabilities support optional
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:12:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BD1F121.1060001@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BD1E55B.2090703-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Hi Steve-

On 04/23/2010 02:22 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:
> On 04/23/2010 01:28 PM, Chuck Lever wrote:
>> On 04/23/2010 12:29 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>> On 04/20/2010 04:46 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>>> The new code using libcap is quite minor, so rather than always reqiure
>>>> libcap support, make it a normal --enable type flag.  Current default
>>>> behavior is retained -- if libcap is found, it is enabled, else it is
>>>> disabled like every nfs-utils version in the past.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Mike Frysinger<vapier@gentoo.org>
>>>>
>>> Committed...
>>
>> I somehow missed this one.  Why are we disabling libcap?  And why are we
>> adding another --enable flag when everyone has agreed that we should
>> avoid that if at all possible?
> The justification I was used was it made nfs-utils more portable on
> systems/distros that may not have the libcap support.

As an aside, the patch description is where we should be documenting the 
thinking behind these decisions in an audit-able and transparent manner. 
  The description for this patch doesn't have a strong justification 
IMHO.  It would be hard for any of us to come back to this patch a year 
from now and figure out exactly why this change was made.  (I say this 
having spent the last year doing just that for a long history of patches 
to statd and mount).

Back on topic: I get it that, in general, we want to allow older distros 
to build the latest nfs-utils.  However I don't think we can blithely 
rip this libcap support out, even just for old configurations.

If we really do need to drop libcap for some configurations, then such a 
change should be thoroughly tested in those environments.  Some features 
won't always work without libcap, and appropriate warnings should be 
added to man pages and/or should be displayed by statd.

>> It is especially on older systems that nfs-utils will break without
>> libcap support.  Without CAP_NET_BIND, pmap_unregister() will fail when
>> statd is shut down, leaving NSM registered with the portmapper, but with
>> no active listeners.  When statd is started up again, it won't be able
>> to register the new NSM listener ports.
> Hmm... I agree the unregister() would fail on exit, but that's the reason
> an unregister() (and then an register) is done on start up before the
> privileges are drop... Actually this how it worked for a very long time,
> well before the capabilities support added...

When I was working on it, subsequent attempts to register would always 
fail if an NSM service was already registered.  In other words, this was 
broken when I found it.

Commits e2446fda and 7dd13420 explain why CAP_NET_BIND was introduced, 
and what bugs are addressed.  Without CAP_NET_BIND, we can't guarantee 
that the NSM service can be unregistered, and neither can we guarantee 
that a privileged port, when requested, can be used for listening.

The problem is that statd drops its root privileges, so any subsequent 
attempts to acquire a privileged port (such as to do a 
pmap_unregister()) will fail, and leave the NSM service registered.

Since rpcbind registration is done via AF_UNIX, it can work without 
CAP_NET_BIND.  But it requires that the registering UID be the same as 
the UID used to unregister it.  Thus both registration and 
unregistration must be root, or both must be done as "rpcuser."  Since 
statd drops its privileges just after start-up, I chose the latter.

However, using lower privileges means a pmap_unregister() will always 
fail in common cases.  So CAP_NET_BIND is retained for this purpose.

We also have to worry about mount.nfs these days, as it pings the statd 
service when mounting with "lock".  If NSM is registered, but no statd 
is listening (as would be the case if statd couldn't unregister itself 
on its way down), then most subsequent NFSv2/v3 mounts would hang.  This 
is why even "unregister/register" at start-up isn't always adequate.

-- 
chuck[dot]lever[at]oracle[dot]com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-23 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-20  8:46 [PATCH] make capabilities support optional Mike Frysinger
2010-04-23 16:29 ` Steve Dickson
     [not found]   ` <4BD1CADD.4050200-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-23 17:28     ` Chuck Lever
2010-04-23 18:22       ` Steve Dickson
     [not found]         ` <4BD1E55B.2090703-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-23 19:12           ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2010-04-23 19:29             ` Mike Frysinger
2010-04-23 20:09               ` Chuck Lever
2010-04-24  4:42                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-04-26 15:12                   ` Chuck Lever
2010-04-26 16:46                     ` Mike Frysinger
2010-04-26 18:03                       ` Chuck Lever
2010-04-23 22:22             ` Steve Dickson
     [not found]               ` <4BD21DA1.4000001-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-26 15:24                 ` Chuck Lever
2010-04-26 16:10                   ` Steve Dickson
     [not found]                     ` <4BD5BAD8.5040209-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-26 16:51                       ` Mike Frysinger
2010-04-26 16:54                         ` Steve Dickson

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