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From: Benny Halevy <bhalevy@panasas.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] Revert "pnfs-submit: wave2: remove forgotten layoutreturn struct definitions"
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:26:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D09BF3F.3070209@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1292444651.3068.67.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>

On 2010-12-15 22:24, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 14:31 -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 20:51 +0200, Benny Halevy wrote:
> 
>>> Eventually, when CB_LAYOUTRECALL is clear to go sending the LAYOUTRETURN
>>> or replying with CB_NOMATCHING_LAYOUT (assuming no I/O error to report
>>> for pnfs-obj) should be equivalent [note: need errata to clarify the
>>> resulting stateid after NOMATCHING_LAYOUT].
>>> Is this the serialization "crap" you're talking about?
>>> What makes checking the conditions for returning NFS4ERR_DELAY to
>>> CB_LAYOUTRECALL so different from implementing a barrier and doing the
>>> returns asynchronously with the CB_LAYOUTRECALL?
>>
>> "CB_LAYOUTRECALL request processing MUST be processed in "seqid" order
>> at all times." (section 12.5.3).
>>
>> In other words, you cannot just 'do the returns asynchronously': the
>> CB_LAYOUTRECALL requests are required by the protocol to be processed in
>> order, which means that you must serialise those LAYOUTRETURN calls to
>> ensure that they all happen in the order the wretched server expects.
> 
> BTW: one consequence of the way the protocol was written is that you
> can't just throw out a LAYOUTRETURN for the entire file if the server
> just recalls a segment. Instead, you have to first return the segment,
> then send the LAYOUTRETURN for the entire file.
> 

It is true that the protocol requires the return of the exact recalled range
but why can't the client do return the whole file before returning the recalled
range?

> That part of the protocol is just one insane idea after another...
> 

This was done to ensure that the server and client are in-sync after a
CB_LAYOUTRECALL.  I agree that returning the whole layout thus resetting
the layout state achieves the same goal and we should consider allowing it
in the next version.

Benny

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-16  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-15 18:29 [PATCH 0/9] pnfs post wave2 changes Benny Halevy
2010-12-15 18:30 ` [PATCH 1/9] Revert "pnfs-submit: wave2: remove forgotten layoutreturn struct definitions" Benny Halevy
2010-12-15 18:32   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-15 18:51     ` Benny Halevy
2010-12-15 19:31       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-15 20:24         ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-16  7:26           ` Benny Halevy [this message]
2010-12-16 17:21             ` Peng Tao
2010-12-16 17:37               ` Benny Halevy
2010-12-17  5:19                 ` Peng Tao
2010-12-16  7:15         ` Benny Halevy
2010-12-16 15:55           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-16 16:24             ` Benny Halevy
2010-12-16 17:35               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-16 17:42                 ` Benny Halevy
2010-12-16 18:14                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-18  3:45                     ` Benny Halevy
2010-12-15 18:31 ` [PATCH 2/9] Revert "pnfs-submit: Turn off layoutcommits" Benny Halevy
2010-12-15 18:31 ` [PATCH 3/9] Revert "pnfs-submit: wave2: remove all LAYOUTRETURN code" Benny Halevy
2010-12-15 18:31 ` [PATCH 4/9] Revert "pnfs-submit: wave2: Remove LAYOUTRETURN from return on close" Benny Halevy
2010-12-15 18:31 ` [PATCH 5/9] FIXME: roc should return layout on last close Benny Halevy
2010-12-15 18:31 ` [PATCH 6/9] Revert "pnfs-submit: wave2: remove cl_layoutrecalls list" Benny Halevy
2010-12-15 18:32 ` [PATCH 7/9] Revert "pnfs-submit: wave2: Pull out all recall initiated LAYOUTRETURNS" Benny Halevy
2010-12-15 18:32 ` [PATCH 8/9] Revert "pnfs-submit: wave2: Don't wait in layoutget" Benny Halevy
2010-12-15 18:32 ` [PATCH 9/9] Revert "pnfs-submit: wave2: check that partial LAYOUTGET return is ignored" Benny Halevy

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