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From: Harry Edmon <harry@uw.edu>
To: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.38.6 - state manager constantly respawns
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 13:37:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DD18B03.1050101@uw.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305578007.19725.24.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>

On 05/16/11 13:33, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 16:21 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
>    
>> On May 16, 2011, at 3:43 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 12:36 -0700, Harry Edmon wrote:
>>>        
>>>> On 05/16/11 12:22, Chuck Lever wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Harry Edmon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> Attached is 1000 lines of output from tshark when the problem is occurring.   The client and server are connected by a private ethernet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>> Disappointing: tshark is not telling us the return codes.  However, I see "PUTFH;READ" then "RENEW" in a loop, which indicates the state manager thread is being kicked off because of ongoing difficulties with state recovery.  Is there a stuck application on that client?
>>>>>
>>>>> Try again with "tshark -V".
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>> Here is the output from tshark -V (first 50,000 lines).   Nothing
>>>> appears to be stuck, and as I said when I reboot the client into 2.6.32
>>>> the problem goes away, only to reappear when I reboot it back into 2.6.38.6.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Possibly, but it definitely indicates a server bug. What kind of server
>>> are you using?
>>>
>>> Basically, the client is getting confused because when it sends a READ,
>>> the server is telling it that the lease has expired, then when it sends
>>> a RENEW, the same server replies that the lease is OK...
>>>        
>> I've seen this during migration recovery testing.  The client may be testing the wrong client ID.
>>
>> But I wonder if it's really worth doing that separate RENEW.  I've seen the client send a RENEW after it gets STALE_STATEID.  Would RENEW really tell the client anything in that case?
>>      
> It is needed.
>
> Without the RENEW, we have no idea whether or not we need to do a full
> state recovery. Running a full recovery when we don't have to is _bad_,
> and will usually cause us to lose delegations and may possibly even
> cause us to lose locks.
>
>    
By the way, this is not the only client/server running 2.6.38 that I 
have this problem on.   It is occurring on other random ones I 
maintain.  This example is happens to be the cleanest one I have, this 
NFS server is only talking to this specific NFS client over a private 
network.
-- 

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-16 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-16 18:40 2.6.38.6 - state manager constantly respawns Harry Edmon
2011-05-16 18:45 ` Chuck Lever
2011-05-16 19:12   ` Harry Edmon
2011-05-16 19:22     ` Chuck Lever
2011-05-16 19:36       ` Harry Edmon
2011-05-16 19:43         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-05-16 19:48           ` Harry Edmon
2011-05-16 19:54             ` Trond Myklebust
2011-05-16 20:20               ` Dr. J. Bruce Fields
2011-05-16 20:53                 ` Dr. J. Bruce Fields
2011-05-20 16:20                   ` Harry Edmon
2011-05-20 17:26                     ` Dr. J. Bruce Fields
2011-05-20 17:52                       ` Trond Myklebust
2011-05-20 18:36                         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-05-20 18:59                           ` Dr. J. Bruce Fields
2011-05-20 19:15                             ` Trond Myklebust
2011-05-20 19:32                               ` Dr. J. Bruce Fields
2011-05-20 18:47                         ` Dr. J. Bruce Fields
2011-05-20 18:50                           ` Bryan Schumaker
2011-05-20 19:29                         ` Harry Edmon
2011-05-20 19:39                           ` Andy Adamson
2011-05-20 19:40                           ` Trond Myklebust
2011-05-20 19:44                             ` Harry Edmon
2011-05-20 20:11                               ` Trond Myklebust
2011-05-20 20:23                                 ` Harry Edmon
2011-05-20 20:27                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-05-20 18:35                       ` Harry Edmon
2011-05-16 20:21           ` Chuck Lever
2011-05-16 20:33             ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]               ` <1305578007.19725.24.camel-SyLVLa/KEI9HwK5hSS5vWB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-16 20:37                 ` Harry Edmon [this message]

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