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From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Brent Welch <welch@panasas.com>,
	NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	open-osd <osd-dev@open-osd.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] pnfs-obj: Remove redundant EOF from objlayout_io_state
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:59:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EAF366C.8040504@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1320103768.10028.25.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>

On 10/31/2011 04:29 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>> In files-type reads in a "condense" layout. You should be careful
>> because in striping it is common place to have eof on some DSs because
>> of file holes even though there are more bits higher on in the file
>> at other DSs. You should check to return back only the answer from the
>> highest logical read DS. (Or I'm wrong in my interpretation?)
> 
> In the close-to-open cache consistency, O_DIRECT database, or file
> locking cases, then either the data has been committed, the file size
> extended and the DSes updated, 

I meant in the case all that as happened (Just opened the file) but
any particular DS can return EOF. Example:
I have 3 DSs, with stripe unit of say 1K for example.

The file has been written to 0K..1K and 2K..3K. In dense layout file-size
on DS2 is zero, right? because it was never written too. So if the client
is reading 0K..3K (All file), Will it get eof from DS2?

> or our client must know that the server
> has incomplete information because it is holding cached writes or
> layoutcommits that extend the file. In either case, the meaning of the
> eofs should be obvious.
> 

I hope that is taken care of, surly?

> Benny's old pet project of making 'tail -f' work on a log file that is
> being extended by someone else is, OTOH, subject to screwiness. However
> that case can be screwy on ordinary read-through-MDS too.
> 

Ye that one was me too. I still think file length can easily be extended
only on commit/layout_commit and not on any random write. So the above can
work. I think there is all that is needed within the protocol for servers that
*want* to support this. With any compliant client. (Ask me if you don't know how,
it involves keeping a shadow length per client up until commit, actually with
pnfs it is easier)

Thanks
Boaz

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-31 23:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-28 19:13 [patchset 0/8] pnfs-obj: Move to ORE for v3.2 merge window Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-29 17:24 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-10-31 17:49   ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-31 21:34     ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-31 21:45       ` [PATCH 1/8] pnfs-obj: Remove redundant EOF from objlayout_io_state Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-31 22:24         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-10-31 22:45           ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-31 23:23             ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-31 23:29             ` Trond Myklebust
2011-10-31 23:59               ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2011-11-01  2:25                 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-10-31 21:45       ` [PATCH 2/8] pnfs-obj: Return PNFS_NOT_ATTEMPTED in case of read/write_pagelist Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-31 21:47       ` [PATCH 3/8] pnfs-obj: Get rid of objlayout_{alloc,free}_io_state Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-31 22:03       ` [PATCH 4/8] pnfs-obj: Rename objlayout_io_state => objlayout_io_res Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-31 22:04       ` [PATCH 5/8] pnfs-obj: move to ore 01: ore_layout & ore_components Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-31 22:15       ` [PATCH 6/8] pnfs-obj: move to ore 02: move to ORE Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-31 22:16       ` [PATCH 7/8] pnfs-obj: move to ore 03: Remove old raid engine Boaz Harrosh
2011-10-31 22:16       ` [PATCH 8/8] pnfs-obj: Support for RAID5 read-4-write interface Boaz Harrosh
2011-11-01 17:42       ` [patchset 0/8] pnfs-obj: Move to ORE for v3.2 merge window Boaz Harrosh
2011-11-02 19:01         ` [osd-dev] " Boaz Harrosh

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