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From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
To: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET 0/4] kmod: Optional timeout on the wait in call_usermodehelper_exec
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:18:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F6A7DE9.8080401@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1332376277.12332.22.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>

On 03/21/2012 05:31 PM, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 17:18 -0700, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>> On 03/21/2012 08:35 AM, Greg KH wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 04:18:49PM -0700, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>>>> Andrew Hi
>>>>
>>>> I'm picking on you because I don't have any one else to pick on.
>>>> The 3 first patches here, are just good for today. Please see if
>>>> you would like to take them? or tell me who should take them?
>>>>
>>>> The 4th patch is an RFC, which got me looking into this.
>>>>
>>>> My motivation is that I added yet another Kernel dependency on the
>>>> call_usermodehelper() function and am not completely happy with the
>>>> error case of having the user-mode program stuck forever. In such
>>>> case I would like the Kernel part to timeout and properly error recover
>>>> and clean up. So therefor the proposed 4th patch.
>>>
>>> What is this new use of call_usermodhelper that you are doing this work
>>> for?  Ideally, you never want to make this call, as it's slow and messy,
>>> as you have found out.  Is there an in-kernel user that you have
>>> recently added?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> greg k-h
>>
>> I agree hence my comment in the 4th patch:
>> 	"In the blasphemous occasions that a the Kernel must call a user-mode program"
>>
>> I have added a new caller, to the nfs/objectlayoutdriver.ko that uses this
>> facility for auto-login into osd-targets (iscsi-targets) when new are requested
>> by the filesystem. This auto-login facility is mandated by the pnfs-objects
>> standard because in a large cluster filesystems for which pnfs was invented, storage
>> devices break and changed everyday, and a manual login by every client is not
>> feasible.
>>
>> You can see this patch as posted to the mailing list here:
>> 	http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.nfs/48024/match=login
>> 	[title: pnfs-obj: autologin: Add support for protocol autologin]
>>
>> It works very well and was heavily tested, with all error scenarios, but
>> the theoretical possibility that the user-mode program can be stuck forever
>> bothers me and I would like to do something about it. With this patch the
>> Kernel can recover cleanly and continue. I have actually tested this part
>> and it works as expected.
> 
> Hi Boaz,
> 
> As an alternative suggestion: since you are always calling the
> same /sbin/osd_login userspace program, wouldn't it be easier to add the
> timeout smarts into that program? If you can't modify the osd_login
> program itself, then it should still be trivial to wrap it with a script
> that adds the 'timeout' command prefix.
> 

That's a good idea. The osd_login is a script supplied by us. And should
be submitted to nfs-utils by Steve. See the 4th patch sent as part of the
login patchset. I will change it to fork and timeout properly.

Regardless, for the long run I would like to pursue the Kernel-side timeout
as well, since that would be the more robust thing to do. Also in the light
that we provide root with the means to register a new osd_login program.

> Cheers
>   Trond

Thanks
Boaz

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-22  1:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-20 23:18 [PATCHSET 0/4] kmod: Optional timeout on the wait in call_usermodehelper_exec Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-20 23:23 ` [PATCH 1/4] kmod: Un-export call_usermodehelper_freeinfo() Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-20 23:26 ` [PATCH 2/4] kmod: Convert two call sites to call_usermodehelper_fns() Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22  3:00   ` James Morris
2012-03-20 23:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] kmod: Move call_usermodehelper_fns() to .c file and unexport it's helpers Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-20 23:32 ` [RFC 4/4] {RFC} kmod.c: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout() API Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22  2:44   ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22  2:48   ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22  2:52     ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22 11:48     ` [RFC 4/4] {RFC} kmod.c: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout()API Tetsuo Handa
2012-03-22 14:27     ` [RFC 4/4] {RFC} kmod.c: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout() API Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-22 14:42       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-22 19:08       ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22 22:16         ` [RFC 4/4] {RFC} kmod.c: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout()API Tetsuo Handa
2012-03-23  4:48           ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-23  5:23             ` Tetsuo Handa
2012-03-23 16:30             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-23 13:34         ` [RFC 4/4] {RFC} kmod.c: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout() API Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-21 15:35 ` [PATCHSET 0/4] kmod: Optional timeout on the wait in call_usermodehelper_exec Greg KH
2012-03-22  0:18   ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-22  0:31     ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-03-22  1:18       ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2012-03-27  1:57 ` [PATCHSET 0/6 version 2] " Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:00   ` [PATCH 1/6] kmod: Unexport call_usermodehelper_freeinfo() Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:02   ` [PATCH 2/6] kmod: Convert two call sites to call_usermodehelper_fns() Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:04   ` [PATCH 3/6] kmod: Move call_usermodehelper_fns() to .c file and unexport all it's helpers Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:06   ` [PATCH 4/6 OPTION-A] completion: Add new wait_for_completion_timeout_state Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:33     ` [PATCH 4/6 OPTION-A version 3] " Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  8:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-28 18:19         ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-28 18:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-28 17:38       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-27  2:09   ` [PATCH 4/6 option-B] kmod: add new wait_for_completion_timeout_state() helper Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27  2:13   ` [PATCH 5/6] kmod: Add new call_usermodehelper_timeout() API Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-27 15:43     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-28 17:04       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-27  2:15   ` [PATCH 6/6] kmod: optional: Convert the use of xchg to a kref Boaz Harrosh
2012-03-28 16:35     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-27 21:07   ` [PATCHSET 0/6 version 2] kmod: Optional timeout on the wait in call_usermodehelper_exec Andrew Morton
2012-03-28 20:19     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-28 21:42       ` Boaz Harrosh

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