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From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: bfields <bfields@fieldses.org>, Steve Dickson <steved@redhat.com>,
	"Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	Joerg Platte <jplatte@naasa.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hans de Bruin <jmdebruin@xmsnet.nl>
Subject: Re: Kernel 3.4.X NFS server regression
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:01:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FD60839.3000508@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120611102947.229cf077@corrin.poochiereds.net>

On 06/11/2012 05:29 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:44:09 +0300
> Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 06/11/2012 04:32 PM, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/11/2012 03:39 PM, Jeff Layton wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But I'm guessing we were wrong to assume that existing setups that
>>>>> people perceived as working would have that path, because the failures
>>>>> in the absence of that path were probably less obvious.
>>>>>
>>
>>
>> One more thing, the most important one. We have already fixed that in the
>> past and I was hoping the lesson was learned. Apparently it was not, and
>> we are doomed to do this mistake for ever!!
>>
>> What ever crap fails times out and crashes, in the recovery code, we don't
>> give a dam. It should never affect any Server-client communication.
>>
>> When the grace periods ends the clients gates opens period. *Any* error
>> return from state recovery code must be carefully ignored and normal
>> operations resumed. At most on error, we move into a mode where any
>> recovery request from client is accepted, since we don't have any better
>> data to verify it.
>>
>> Please comb recovery code to make sure any catastrophe is safely ignored.
>> We already did that before and it used to work.
>>
> 
> That's not the case, and hasn't ever been AFAICT. The code has changed
> a bit recently, but the existing behavior in this regard was preserved.
> From nfs4_check_open_reclaim:
> 
>         return nfsd4_client_record_check(clp) ? nfserr_reclaim_bad : nfs_ok;
> 
> ...if there is no client record, then the reclaim request fails. Doesn't
> the RFC mandate that?
> 


Regardless of what RFC mandates and what is returned to client, (Which sounds
very unrobust to me) I'm sure the client handles nfserr_reclaim_bad just
fine.

It's the server that's getting stuck in its own feet and stops responding.
That's what I meant. We should always resume normal operations after
the grace period ends.

I did not see any reports of client getting into trouble because of
unexpected nfserr_reclaim_bad, did you?

Thanks
Boaz

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-11 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4FD47D4E.9070307@naasa.net>
2012-06-10 11:43 ` Kernel 3.4.X NFS regression Boaz Harrosh
2012-06-10 15:00 ` Kernel 3.4.X NFS server regression Myklebust, Trond
2012-06-11 12:16   ` bfields
2012-06-11 12:39     ` Jeff Layton
2012-06-11 13:13       ` Jeff Layton
2012-06-11 13:25         ` Jörg Platte
2012-06-11 14:20           ` Jeff Layton
2012-06-11 15:55             ` Joerg Platte
2012-06-11 13:32       ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-06-11 13:44         ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-06-11 14:29           ` Jeff Layton
2012-06-11 15:01             ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2012-06-11 15:15               ` bfields
2012-06-11 16:25                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-06-11 13:51         ` Jeff Layton
2012-06-11 14:05           ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-06-11 14:11             ` Jeff Layton
2012-06-11 14:45               ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-06-11 14:55                 ` Jeff Layton
2012-06-11 15:04                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-06-11 14:03   ` [PATCH] rpc_pipefs: allow rpc_purge_list to take a NULL waitq pointer Jeff Layton
2012-06-15 15:24   ` Kernel 3.4.X NFS server regression Joerg Platte
2012-06-15 16:28     ` bfields
2012-06-15 17:19       ` Joerg Platte

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