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From: dai.ngo@oracle.com
To: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	"chuck.lever@oracle.com" <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"jlayton@kernel.org" <jlayton@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SUNRPC: increase max timeout for rebind to handle NFS server restart
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 10:40:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <501ff5e3-298b-8b1c-d5d1-e6e2f0466e27@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d0f7600702ba073aad1056fbf93306adccf2ae9c.camel@hammerspace.com>


On 4/18/23 9:02 AM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-04-17 at 18:04 -0700, dai.ngo@oracle.com wrote:
>> On 4/17/23 5:23 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>> task->tk_rebind_retry is _only_ changed if the rpcbind server is up
>>> and
>>> running, and returns an empty reply because the service we're
>>> looking
>>> up isn't registered.
>>> task->tk_rebind_retry isn't changed on any request timeout. It
>>> isn't
>>> changed on any connection failure. It isn't changed by any other
>>> code
>>> path in the RPC client.
>>>
>>> So none of this applies to the case of a dead server.
>> Sorry if I'm not clear. What I meant by a dead server is a dead NFS
>> server and not rpcbind service. So in this case we get EACCES from
>> rpcbind and we retry.
>>
>>> It applies to the case of a live server, where rpcbind is running
>>> and
>>> accessible to the client and where, for some reason or another, it
>>> is
>>> taking an exceptionally long time to register the service we are
>>> looking up the port for (either NLM or NFSv3).
>> Yes, this is the problem that I'm facing.
>>
>>> So where are you seeing this process take 90 seconds? Why do we
>>> need to
>>> wait for that long before we can finally conclude that the
>>> particular
>>> service in question is not going to come back up?
>> 90 secs wait is for when the NFS server never come up and we keep
>> getting
>> EACCES from rpcbind for this whole time.
>>
> OK, so the 90s is completely arbitrary then, and was only chosen
> because it fits your particular server?
>
> To me, that appears to invalidate the entire premise of commit
> 0b760113a3a1 that we can rely on rpcbind to tell us if the service is
> present or not.
> In that case, I'd rather rip out the task->tk_rebind_retry counter, and
> just rely on standard hard/soft task semantics.

Okay, I will resend the patch that relies on standard hard/soft task semantics.

Thanks,
-Dai


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-18 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-08  3:30 [PATCH] SUNRPC: increase max timeout for rebind to handle NFS server restart Dai Ngo
2023-04-12 17:50 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-12 17:55   ` Chuck Lever III
2023-04-12 18:09     ` dai.ngo
2023-04-17 20:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2023-04-17 21:41   ` Chuck Lever III
2023-04-17 21:48     ` Trond Myklebust
2023-04-17 21:51       ` dai.ngo
2023-04-17 21:53         ` Trond Myklebust
2023-04-17 23:14           ` dai.ngo
2023-04-18  0:23             ` Trond Myklebust
2023-04-18  1:04               ` dai.ngo
2023-04-18 16:02                 ` Trond Myklebust
2023-04-18 17:40                   ` dai.ngo [this message]
2023-04-17 21:53       ` Chuck Lever III
2023-04-17 22:10         ` Trond Myklebust
2023-04-18  0:06           ` Chuck Lever III

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