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From: Benny Halevy <bhalevy@tonian.com>
To: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Peng Tao <bergwolf@gmail.com>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tigran Mkrtchyan <tigran.mkrtchyan@desy.de>,
	Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	"Isaman, Fred" <Fred.Isaman@netapp.com>,
	"Idan Keidar" <idank@tonian.com>, Lev Solomonov <solo@tonian.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NFSv4.1: Remove a bogus BUG_ON() in nfs4_layoutreturn_done
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:48:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <502A02B2.2020700@tonian.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1344526780.25447.6.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>

On 2012-08-09 18:39, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 23:01 +0800, Peng Tao wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Myklebust, Trond
>> <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 22:30 +0800, Peng Tao wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Trond Myklebust
>>>> <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> wrote:
>>>>> Ever since commit 0a57cdac3f (NFSv4.1 send layoutreturn to fence
>>>>> disconnected data server) we've been sending layoutreturn calls
>>>>> while there is potentially still outstanding I/O to the data
>>>>> servers. The reason we do this is to avoid races between replayed
>>>>> writes to the MDS and the original writes to the DS.
>>>>>
>>>>> When this happens, the BUG_ON() in nfs4_layoutreturn_done can
>>>>> be triggered because it assumes that we would never call
>>>>> layoutreturn without knowing that all I/O to the DS is
>>>>> finished. The fix is to remove the BUG_ON() now that the
>>>>> assumptions behind the test are obsolete.
>>>>>
>>>> Isn't MDS supposed to recall the layout if races are possible between
>>>> outstanding write-to-DS and write-through-MDS?
>>>
>>> Where do you read that in RFC5661?
>>>
>> That's my (maybe mis-)understanding of how server works... But looking
>> at rfc5661 section 18.44.3. layoutreturn implementation.
>> "
>> After this call,
>>    the client MUST NOT use the returned layout(s) and the associated
>>    storage protocol to access the file data.
>> "
>> And given commit 0a57cdac3f, client is using the layout even after
>> layoutreturn, which IMHO is a violation of rfc5661.
> 
> No. It is using the layoutreturn to tell the MDS to fence off I/O to a
> data server that is not responding. It isn't attempting to use the
> layout after the layoutreturn: the whole point is that we are attempting
> write-through-MDS after the attempt to write through the DS timed out.
> 

I hear you, but this use case is valid after a time out / disconnect
(which will translate to PNFS_OSD_ERR_UNREACHABLE for the objects layout)
In other cases, I/Os to the DS might obviously be in flight and the BUG_ON
indicates that.

IMO, the right way to implement that is to initially mark the lsegs invalid
and increment plh_block_lgets, as we do today in _pnfs_return_layout
but actually send the layout return only when the last segment is dereferenced.

Benny

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-14  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-08 20:21 [PATCH] NFSv4.1: Remove a bogus BUG_ON() in nfs4_layoutreturn_done Trond Myklebust
2012-08-09 14:30 ` Peng Tao
2012-08-09 14:36   ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-08-09 15:01     ` Peng Tao
2012-08-09 15:39       ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-08-09 16:22         ` Peng Tao
2012-08-09 16:29           ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-08-09 16:40             ` Peng Tao
2012-08-09 17:06             ` Peng Tao
2012-08-12 17:36         ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-08-13 16:26           ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-08-13 23:39             ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-08-14  0:16               ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-08-14  0:28                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-08-14  0:49                   ` Myklebust, Trond
     [not found]           ` <1344875167.7706.31.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>
2012-08-13 16:58             ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-08-14  7:48         ` Benny Halevy [this message]
2012-08-14 13:45           ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-08-14 14:30             ` Peng Tao
2012-08-14 14:53               ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-08-15 11:50                 ` Benny Halevy

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