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From: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>
To: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Adding the nfs4_use_min_auth module parameter
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:08:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <527CFE57.9030106@RedHat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EDB1FCDB-A6B6-4595-A46F-B73AF9FAA990@netapp.com>



On 08/11/13 09:30, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> 
> On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:21, Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 07/11/13 17:29, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
>>>> Again, what servers, today, support this type of secure state establishment?
>>>>> Having this type of security in the client I think is good... but if
>>>>> the client is not talking with any servers that support this type 
>>>>> of security, why not have a way to turn it off?
>>> I don't understand. Servers are _required_ to support RPCSEC_GSS with
>>> krb5 by both RFC3530 and RFC5661. AUTH_SYS is, in fact, the optional
>>> flavour.
>> Agreed... 100% of the NFSv4 server have to support RPCSEC_GSS. its mandated
>> by the spec(s). 
>>
>>>
>>> The problem here is that sometimes kerberos isn't configured by the
>>> admin, who then expects that it shouldn't be necessary to run rpc.gssd
>>> or rpc.svcgssd. It is necessary because we first try the
>>> mandatory-to-implement and secure RPCSEC_GSS/krb5i flavour before
>>> falling back to the less secure AUTH_SYS...
>> Sometimes? Its generally not.. from my experience... 
>>
>> Basically how I interpret this last paragraph, is we will be requiring 
>> admins set up secure mounts for them to avoid the 15sec delay mount
>> times... aka... running a daemon that will say "no, no there is no 
>> security here" while spewing of log messages when Kerberos is not setup...
> 
> No. All we are requiring is that they run rpc.gssd.
Even when they do not want any secure mounts at all?

What is that justification?


steved.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-08 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-07 19:09 [PATCH] Adding the nfs4_use_min_auth module parameter Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 19:25 ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-07 21:01   ` Jeff Layton
2013-11-07 21:40     ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 22:04       ` Jeff Layton
2013-11-07 21:35   ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 23:05     ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 12:41       ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 13:22         ` Jeff Layton
2013-11-08 15:00           ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 15:12             ` Jeff Layton
2013-11-08 16:10               ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 16:17                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 16:19                   ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 16:22                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 16:28                       ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 16:39                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 16:45                           ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 18:12                           ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 18:09                   ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 20:14                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 20:32                   ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-09  2:04               ` NeilBrown
2013-11-08 16:27             ` Weston Andros Adamson
2013-11-08 16:38               ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 15:04           ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 15:54             ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 16:14               ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 17:58                 ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 18:46                   ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 21:09                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-11-08 16:17               ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 15:46         ` Chuck Lever
2013-11-08 21:25           ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 19:26 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-11-07 21:25   ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 21:39     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-11-07 21:57       ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-07 22:29         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-11-08 12:21           ` Steve Dickson
2013-11-08 14:30             ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-11-08 15:08               ` Steve Dickson [this message]
2013-11-08 15:16                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-11-08 16:31                   ` Steve Dickson

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