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From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Stanislav Kinsbursky <skinsbursky@parallels.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, devel@openvz.org,
	bfields@fieldses.org, bharrosh@panasas.com,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: call_usermodehelper in containers
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 12:43:31 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56C53DE3.1070108@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8737sq4teb.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On 2016/02/18 11:57, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> Ccing The containers list because a related discussion is happening there
> and somehow this thread has never made it there.
> 
> Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net> writes:
> 
>> On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 18:28 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>> On 11/15, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand that one.  Having a preforked thread with the
>>>> proper
>>>> environment that can act like kthreadd in terms of spawning user
>>>> mode
>>>> helpers works and is simple.
>>
>> Forgive me replying to such an old thread but ...
>>
>> After realizing workqueues can't be used to pre-create threads to run
>> usermode helpers I've returned to look at this.
> 
> If someone can wind up with a good implementation I will be happy.
> 
>>> Can't we ask ->child_reaper to create the non-daemonized kernel thread
>>> with the "right" ->nsproxy, ->fs, etc?
>>
>> Eric, do you think this approach would be sufficient too?
>>
>> Probably wouldn't be quite right for user namespaces but should provide
>> what's needed for other cases?
>>
>> It certainly has the advantage of not having to maintain a plague of
>> processes waiting around to execute helpers.
> 
> That certainly sounds attractive.  Especially for the case of everyone
> who wants to set a core pattern in a container.
> 
> I am fuzzy on all of the details right now, but what I do remember is
> that in the kernel the user mode helper concepts when they attempted to
> scrub a processes environment were quite error prone until we managed to
> get kthreadd(pid 2) on the scene which always had a clean environment.
> 
> If we are going to tie this kind of thing to the pid namespace I
> recommend simplying denying it if you are in a user namespace without
> an approrpriate pid namespace.  AKA simply not allowing thigns to be setup
> if current->pid_ns->user_ns != current->user_ns.
> 
Can't be handled by simple capability like CAP_SYS_USERMODEHELPER ?

User_ns check seems not to allow core-dump-cather in host will not work if user_ns is used.

Thanks,
-Kame


  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-18  3:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-11 12:18 call_usermodehelper in containers Jeff Layton
2013-11-11 12:43 ` [Devel] " Vasily Kulikov
2013-11-11 13:26   ` Jeff Layton
2013-11-12  0:47 ` Greg KH
2013-11-12 11:12   ` Jeff Layton
2013-11-12 13:02     ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2013-11-12 13:30       ` Jeff Layton
2013-11-15  5:05         ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-11-15 10:40         ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2013-11-15 11:03           ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-11-15 11:54             ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2016-02-12 23:39               ` Ian Kent
2016-02-13 16:08                 ` Stanislav Kinsburskiy
2016-02-15  0:11                   ` Ian Kent
2016-02-18  3:17                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-11-18 17:28             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-18 18:02               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-11-19 14:51                 ` Jeff Layton
2016-02-11  0:17               ` Ian Kent
2016-02-18  2:57                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-02-18  3:43                   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki [this message]
2016-02-18  6:36                     ` Ian Kent
2016-02-18  7:37                       ` Ian Kent
2016-02-18 20:45                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-02-19  3:08                           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2016-02-19  5:37                             ` Ian Kent
2016-02-19  9:30                               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2016-02-20  3:28                                 ` Ian Kent
2016-02-19  5:14                           ` Ian Kent
2016-02-23  2:55                             ` Ian Kent
2016-02-23 14:36                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-02-24  0:55                                 ` Ian Kent
2016-03-24  7:45               ` Ian Kent
2016-03-25  1:28                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-03-25  7:25                   ` Ian Kent

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