linux-nfs.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: NeilBrown <nfbrown@novell.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	NFS List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Reconsidering exportable UBIFS
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 16:10:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57333D6D.3050601@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871t5curbl.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>

Am 09.05.2016 um 00:18 schrieb NeilBrown:
>> The biggest problem I see is that UBIFS does not really support telldir()
>> and seekdir().
>> Directory offsets in UBIFS are plain hash values, so telldir()/seekdir() won't
>> correctly work if UBIFS faces hash collisions.
>> Currently UBIFS implements a hack which stores the UBIFS dent object into
>> file->private_data such that consecutive readdir()s are guaranteed to work.
>> A comment on UBIFS's readdir states:
>>  * This means that UBIFS cannot support NFS which requires full
>>  * 'seekdir()'/'telldir()' support.
>>
>> Is this still true? Maybe we can have NFS even if it is not perfect in
>> terms of performance.
> 
> How big are your hashes?
> ext3 messed up their readdir/telldir design too so they don't have
> guaranteed unique keys.
> When using 32bit hashes you can definitely get problems with
> collisions.  I have not heard of problems with 64bit hashes.
> 
> I may have the details slightly wrong, but as I recall non-uniqueness of
> cookies only causes a problem when the last cookie returned in a READDIR
> reply matches the first cookie returned in reply to the next readdir.
> So non-uniqueness is only a problem when it aligns badly.

UBIFS is using 32bit hashes, r5 hash from reiserfs. ;-\

Thanks,
//richard

      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-11 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <5702E7F5.1050807@nod.at>
2016-05-08 22:18 ` Reconsidering exportable UBIFS NeilBrown
2016-05-08 23:25   ` Al Viro
2016-05-09  5:03     ` NeilBrown
2016-05-11 14:09       ` Richard Weinberger
2016-05-11 14:10   ` Richard Weinberger [this message]

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=57333D6D.3050601@nod.at \
    --to=richard@nod.at \
    --cc=dedekind1@gmail.com \
    --cc=hch@infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=nfbrown@novell.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).