From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Steve Dickson <steved@redhat.com>,
JianHong Yin <yin-jianhong@163.com>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nfsd: fix handling of readdir in v4root vs. mount upcall timeout
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2023 08:31:28 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6f869549199e7c2a4a9aa239e0091cd9c7733ab7.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5248B584-8A4A-47D2-A7D0-8EFDC2B97F63@oracle.com>
On Sun, 2023-01-01 at 18:18 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote:
>
> > On Jan 1, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 14, 2022, at 12:37 AM, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 14/12/22 08:39, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2022-12-14 at 07:14 +0800, Ian Kent wrote:
> > > > > On 14/12/22 04:02, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 2022-12-13 at 19:00 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If v4 READDIR operation hits a mountpoint and gets back an error,
> > > > > > > > then it will include that entry in the reply and set RDATTR_ERROR for it
> > > > > > > > to the error.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's fine for "normal" exported filesystems, but on the v4root, we
> > > > > > > > need to be more careful to only expose the existence of dentries that
> > > > > > > > lead to exports.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the mountd upcall times out while checking to see whether a
> > > > > > > > mountpoint on the v4root is exported, then we have no recourse other
> > > > > > > > than to fail the whole operation.
> > > > > > > Thank you for chasing this down!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Failing the whole READDIR when mountd times out might be a bad idea.
> > > > > > > If the mountd upcall times out every time, the client can't make
> > > > > > > any progress and will continue to emit the failing READDIR request.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would it be better to skip the unresolvable entry instead and let
> > > > > > > the READDIR succeed without that entry?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Mounting doesn't usually require working READDIR. In that situation, a
> > > > > > readdir() might hang (until the client kills), but a lookup of other
> > > > > > dentries that aren't perpetually stalled should be ok in this situation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If mountd is that hosed then I think it's unlikely that any progress
> > > > > > will be possible anyway.
> > > > > The READDIR shouldn't trigger a mount yes, but if it's a valid automount
> > > > >
> > > > > point (basically a valid dentry in this case I think) it should be listed.
> > > > >
> > > > > It certainly shouldn't hold up the READDIR, passing into it is when a
> > > > >
> > > > > mount should occur.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's usually the behavior we want for automounts, we don't want mount
> > > > >
> > > > > storms on directories full of automount points.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > We only want to display it if it's a valid _exported_ mountpoint.
> > > >
> > > > The idea here is to only reveal the parts of the namespace that are
> > > > exported in the nfsv4 pseudoroot. The "normal" contents are not shown --
> > > > only exported mountpoints and ancestor directories of those mountpoints.
> > > >
> > > > We don't want mountd triggering automounts, in general. If the
> > > > underlying filesystem was exported, then it should also already be
> > > > mounted, since nfsd doesn't currently trigger automounts in
> > > > follow_down().
> > >
> > > Umm ... must they already be mounted?
> > >
> > >
> > > Can't it be a valid mount point either not yet mounted or timed out
> > >
> > > and umounted. In that case shouldn't it be listed, I know that's
> > >
> > > not the that good an outcome because its stat info will change when
> > >
> > > it gets walked into but it's usually the only sane choice.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > There is also a separate patchset by Richard Weinberger to allow nfsd to
> > > > trigger automounts if the parent filesystem is exported with -o
> > > > crossmnt. That should be ok with this patch, since the automount will be
> > > > triggered before the upcall to mountd. That should ensure that it's
> > > > already mounted by the time we get to upcalling for its export.
> > >
> > > Yep, saw that, ;)
> >
> > I'm not sure if there is consensus on this patch.
> >
> > It's been pushed to nfsd's for-rc branch for wider testing, but if
> > there's a strong objection I can pull it out before the next -rc PR.
>
> Also, do we agree that it should get a "Cc: stable" tag?
>
Yes, I think so. This potentially exposes some info to clients that they
really shouldn't have.
--
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-03 13:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-13 18:08 [PATCH] nfsd: fix handling of readdir in v4root vs. mount upcall timeout Jeff Layton
2022-12-13 19:00 ` Chuck Lever III
2022-12-13 20:02 ` Jeff Layton
2022-12-13 23:14 ` Ian Kent
2022-12-14 0:39 ` Jeff Layton
2022-12-14 5:37 ` Ian Kent
2023-01-01 18:09 ` Chuck Lever III
2023-01-01 18:18 ` Chuck Lever III
2023-01-03 13:31 ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2023-01-02 6:34 ` Ian Kent
2023-01-02 6:57 ` Ian Kent
2023-01-01 21:16 ` Jeff Layton
2023-01-02 6:41 ` Ian Kent
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