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From: Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Windsor <dwindsor@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Support for VRF in NFS?
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 09:59:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74f0a2e8-f631-8d8d-5b98-8248dadf5aa6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90f8e9ba-3953-e2d1-56f4-421a4991cef8@candelatech.com>

Hi,


On 08/11/18 16:35, Ben Greear wrote:
>
>
> On 11/08/2018 07:31 AM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 09:08:16PM -0800, Ben Greear wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/07/2018 05:14 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 01:03:54PM -0800, Ben Greear wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I made a stab at implementing VRF support in NFS, but it appears
>>>>> fairly complicated and I ended up reverting my changes....
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone working on this?
>>>>>
>>>>> And, if not, if anyone would like to be sponsored to work on this, 
>>>>> please
>>>>> let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Um, sorry--what's VRF?
>>>
>>> Virtual Router logic.  It is sort of like network stack containers,
>>> and has been solid and fully featured in the kernel since 4.16 or so.
>>>
>>> In the end, you effectively need to call the logic that SO_BINDTODEVICE
>>> calls on the socket before binding to an IP.
>>>
>>> The NFS and RPC logic is a giant tangled mess to my eyes, so
>>> hoping I could bribe someone else to do it :)
>>
>> So it's not enough to support network namespaces?
>>
>> What's your motivation for this?
>
> Network namespaces are difficult to uses for lots of use cases, and 
> thus VRF
> was born.
>
> My own motivation is that it allows me to make hundreds or thousands
> of individual NFS mounts from local mac-vlan (or other 
> virtual/physical interfaces),
> for testing purposes.
>
> Similar to my patch set that binds to local IP address, which gives 
> similar feature
> set for non-VRF configurations.  These bind-local-IP patches are not 
> upstream and were rejected in
> the past as un-wanted.  I'm hoping VRF support would be more acceptable.
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>

For similar reasons David Windsor has been looking at some extensions 
for DLM along these lines. Improving our ability to test seems to me 
like it should be a good thing to do - in both cases. Likewise VRF 
support seems also like it should be useful in a number of contexts.

Do you have a reference to your past work? I think it would be 
interesting to get some discussion going here - maybe it would be 
possible to have some common approach between kernel-side socket users, 
and/or bounce some ideas around,

Steve.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-09  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-06 21:03 Support for VRF in NFS? Ben Greear
2018-11-08  1:14 ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-11-08  5:08   ` Ben Greear
2018-11-08 15:31     ` J. Bruce Fields
2018-11-08 16:35       ` Ben Greear
2018-11-09  9:59         ` Steven Whitehouse [this message]
2018-11-09 14:48           ` Ben Greear
     [not found]             ` <CAGKpdE9YMQNisieoOUbenwA8a7PhTngLTX=v8Bkznfqc2816dQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-11-12 14:21               ` Fwd: " David Windsor
2018-11-12 14:47                 ` Ben Greear
2018-11-12 16:39                   ` David Windsor

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