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From: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Martin Wege <martin.l.wege@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] nfsd: disallow file locking and delegations for NFSv4 reexport
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 14:11:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7FB2B261-48F9-4DA0-B4B5-E8E30EC31CD9@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANH4o6Pi13aEtQW5-vmuJiuCNzx6tjn1+v=pLUpVMuffX-WkPA@mail.gmail.com>



> On Oct 29, 2024, at 9:57 AM, Martin Wege <martin.l.wege@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 5:58 PM Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org> wrote:
>> 
>> We do not and cannot support file locking with NFS reexport over
>> NFSv4.x for the same reason we don't do it for NFSv3: NFS reexport
>> server reboot cannot allow clients to recover locks because the source
>> NFS server has not rebooted, and so it is not in grace.  Since the
>> source NFS server is not in grace, it cannot offer any guarantees that
>> the file won't have been changed between the locks getting lost and
>> any attempt to recover/reclaim them.  The same applies to delegations
>> and any associated locks, so disallow them too.
>> 
>> Add EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKSUPPORT and exportfs_lock_op_is_unsupported(), set
>> EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKSUPPORT in nfs_export_ops and check for it in
>> nfsd4_lock(), nfsd4_locku() and nfs4_set_delegation().  Clients are
>> not allowed to get file locks or delegations from a reexport server,
>> any attempts will fail with operation not supported.
> 
> Are you aware that this virtually castrates NFSv4 reexport to a point
> that it is no longer usable in real life?

"virtually castrates" is pretty nebulous. Please provide a
detailed (and less hostile) account of an existing application
that works today that no longer works when this patch is
applied. Only then can we count this as a regression report.


> If you really want this,
> then the only way forward is to disable and remove NFS reexport
> support completely.

"No locking" is already the way NFSv3 re-export works.

At the moment I cannot remember why we chose not to go with
the "only local locking for re-export" design instead.


--
Chuck Lever



  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-29 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-23 14:54 [PATCH] nfsd: disallow file locking and delegations for NFSv4 proxy Mike Snitzer
2024-10-23 15:03 ` Chuck Lever
2024-10-23 15:29 ` [PATCH v2] " Mike Snitzer
2024-10-23 15:58   ` [PATCH v3] nfsd: disallow file locking and delegations for NFSv4 reexport Mike Snitzer
2024-10-29 13:57     ` Martin Wege
2024-10-29 14:11       ` Chuck Lever III [this message]
2024-10-29 15:54         ` Brian Cowan
2024-10-29 16:03           ` Chuck Lever III
2024-10-30 14:55             ` Cedric Blancher
2024-10-30 16:15               ` Chuck Lever III
2024-10-30 16:37                 ` Cedric Blancher
2024-10-30 16:59                   ` Chuck Lever III
2024-10-30 22:48                     ` Rick Macklem
2024-10-31 11:43                       ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-31 14:48                         ` Rick Macklem
2024-10-31 15:01                           ` Chuck Lever III
2024-10-31 16:02                             ` Rick Macklem
2024-10-31 15:14     ` Chuck Lever
2024-11-18 18:57       ` Chuck Lever
2024-11-19  0:37         ` Daire Byrne

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