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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
To: Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>, Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Multiple network connections for a single NFS mount.
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 09:21:59 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a7enwvvs.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac631f3c-af1a-6877-08b6-21ddf71edff2@talpey.com>

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On Tue, Jun 11 2019, Tom Talpey wrote:
>
> I really hope nconnect is not just a workaround for some undiscovered
> performance issue. All that does is kick the can down the road.

This is one of my fears too.

My current perspective is to ask
  "What do hardware designers optimise for".
because the speeds we are looking at really require various bits of
hardware to be working together harmoniously.

In context, that question becomes "Do they optimise for single
connection throughput, or multiple connection throughput".

Given the amount of money in web-services, I think multiple connection
throughput is most likely to provide dollars.
I also think that is would be a lot easier to parallelise than single
connection.

So if we NFS developers want to work with the strengths of the hardware,
I think multiple connections and increased parallelism is a sensible
long-term strategy.

So while I cannot rule out any undiscovered performance issue, I don't
think this is just kicking the can down the road.

Thanks,
NeilBrown

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-11 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-30  0:41 [PATCH 0/9] Multiple network connections for a single NFS mount NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 1/9] SUNRPC: Add basic load balancing to the transport switch NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 2/9] SUNRPC: Allow creation of RPC clients with multiple connections NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 5/9] SUNRPC: add links for all client xprts to debugfs NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 8/9] pNFS: Allow multiple connections to the DS NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 7/9] NFSv4: Allow multiple connections to NFSv4.x servers NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 6/9] NFS: Add a mount option to specify number of TCP connections to use NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 4/9] SUNRPC: enhance rpc_clnt_show_stats() to report on all xprts NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 3/9] NFS: send state management on a single connection NeilBrown
2019-07-23 18:11   ` Schumaker, Anna
2019-07-23 22:54     ` NeilBrown
2019-07-31  2:05     ` [PATCH] NFS: add flags arg to nfs4_call_sync_sequence() NeilBrown
2019-05-30  0:41 ` [PATCH 9/9] NFS: Allow multiple connections to a NFSv2 or NFSv3 server NeilBrown
2019-05-30 17:05 ` [PATCH 0/9] Multiple network connections for a single NFS mount Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 17:20   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-05-30 17:41     ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 18:41       ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-05-31  1:45         ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 22:38       ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31  1:48         ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-31  2:31           ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31 12:39             ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-30 23:53     ` Rick Macklem
2019-05-31  0:15       ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-31  1:01       ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31  2:20         ` Rick Macklem
2019-05-31 12:36           ` Tom Talpey
2019-05-31 13:33             ` Trond Myklebust
2019-05-30 17:56 ` Chuck Lever
2019-05-30 18:59   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-05-30 22:56   ` NeilBrown
2019-05-31 13:46     ` Chuck Lever
2019-05-31 15:38       ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-06-11  1:09       ` NeilBrown
2019-06-11 14:51         ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 15:05           ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 15:20           ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-11 15:35             ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 16:41               ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-11 17:32                 ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 17:44                   ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-12 12:34                     ` Steve Dickson
2019-06-12 12:47                       ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-12 13:10                         ` Trond Myklebust
2019-06-11 15:34           ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-06-11 17:46             ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 19:13               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-06-11 20:02                 ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 20:09                   ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-11 21:10                     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-06-11 21:35                       ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 22:55                         ` NeilBrown
2019-06-12 12:55                           ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 23:02                       ` NeilBrown
2019-06-11 23:21                   ` NeilBrown [this message]
2019-06-12 12:52                     ` Tom Talpey
2019-06-11 23:42               ` NeilBrown
2019-06-12 12:39                 ` Steve Dickson
2019-06-12 17:36                 ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-12 23:03                   ` NeilBrown
2019-06-13 16:13                     ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-12  1:49           ` NeilBrown
2019-06-12 18:32             ` Chuck Lever
2019-06-12 23:37               ` NeilBrown
2019-06-13 16:27                 ` Chuck Lever
2019-05-31  0:24 ` J. Bruce Fields

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