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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
To: Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Nelson Elhage <nelhage@nelhage.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, James Brown <jbrown@easypost.com>
Subject: Re: NFSv3 may inappropriately return EPERM for fsetxattr
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 19:03:14 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ftzhb9rh.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878t5bqgx0.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>

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On Mon, Aug 13 2018, NeilBrown wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 12 2018, Bruce Fields wrote:
>> OK, so not too important.  Still, it sounds like
>> inode_owner_or_capable() is something people expect to work for any
>> filesystem, so I wonder if there's a way to do that.  Or at least
>> disable it.
>
> We could add a new flag - MAY_OWN (or something) - to the flags
> recognised by inode_permission() and i_op->permission().
>
> If ->permission isn't set, inode_permission() uses
> inode_owner_or_capable().
> If it is, it gets to call that, or do whatever is appropriate.
>
> Is this flag the same as NFS_MAY_OWNER_OVERRIDE or not....??
>

Pursuing this thought...
  NFSD_MAY_OWNER_OVERRIDE means "an operation is requested which
   may always be performed by the owner of the file, even if they
   don't have explicit permission via DAC setting."

I think this is a reasonable description of how inode_owner_or_capable()
is used.  It is sometimes used on its own, where there is no permission
but that is relevant such as O_NOATIME or set_posix_acl(), or is used
as a precursor to and inode_permission() check, as in notify_change().

The biggest difference is that NFSD_MAY_OWNER_OVERRIDE does have the
"or_capable".
As nfsd drops CAP_FOWNER, and the extra test won't hurt it.

So I now think that a good solution to this problem would be to hoist
NFSD_MAY_OWNER_OVERRIDE into the VFS and change inode_permission() and
various i_op->permission functions to handle it.

All we need is a good name....
  MAY_BY_OWNER  ???
  MAY_IF_OWNER
  MAY_BE_OWNER ???

MAY_READ means "may I please read this file".  The flag needs to say
"may I act as the owner of this file", so
  MAY_ACT_AS_OWNER ????

Thought?

NeilBrown

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-14 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-18  3:46 NFSv3 may inappropriately return EPERM for fsetxattr Nelson Elhage
2016-03-21 14:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-21 15:56   ` Nelson Elhage
2018-08-10  1:29     ` NeilBrown
2018-08-10 17:00       ` Bruce Fields
2018-08-10 17:03         ` Bruce Fields
2018-08-11 22:28           ` NeilBrown
2018-08-12 13:21             ` Bruce Fields
2018-08-12 23:55               ` NeilBrown
2018-08-14  9:03                 ` NeilBrown [this message]
2018-08-14 19:43                   ` Bruce Fields
2018-08-14 23:49                     ` NeilBrown
2018-08-16  0:39                     ` NeilBrown
2018-08-16 17:54                       ` Bruce Fields
2018-08-16 22:50                         ` NeilBrown

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