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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
To: devzero@web.de, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Cc: pf@artcom-gmbh.de, rnews@altium.nl, jlayton@redhat.com,
	bfields@fieldses.org
Subject: Re: How to avoid rebooting Linux NFS-client when NFS-server is not available?
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 13:17:12 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mv9halzb.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <trinity-f2c19596-3afe-4a3f-ad07-78e6cfda9cb5-1496911790012@3capp-webde-bap34>

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On Thu, Jun 08 2017, devzero@web.de wrote:

>>Indeed: This workaround seems to work!
>
> Unfortunately not in every situation.
>
> We have differnt XEN servers (Citrix XS7) at remote location which have hung/stale NFS mount problems at regular intervals (.ISO storage repo is mounted via WAN) and i always need to reboot, which really really(!) sucks.
>
> At least a fake NFS server as described below releases the stuck mount, i.e. df -h and other processes touching do not hang anymore, so at least this workaround helps to some degree... 
>
> BUT:
>
> # umount /run/sr-mount/2b5c5c60-3744-c860-28a7-eb106d3a339e
> umount.nfs: /run/sr-mount/2b5c5c60-3744-c860-28a7-eb106d3a339e: Stale file handle
>
> # mount|grep xen-sr-iso
> 172.16.28.10:/mnt/S2V2/xen-sr-iso on /run/sr-mount/2b5c5c60-3744-c860-28a7-eb106d3a339e type nfs (rw,relatime,vers=3,rsize=131072,wsize=131072,namlen=255,acdirmin=0,acdirmax=0,soft,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=2147483647,sec=sys,mountaddr=172.16.28.10,mountvers=3,mountport=680,mountproto=tcp,local_lock=none,addr=172.16.28.10)
>
> # umount -l -f /run/sr-mount/2b5c5c60-3744-c860-28a7-eb106d3a339e
> umount.nfs: /run/sr-mount/2b5c5c60-3744-c860-28a7-eb106d3a339e: Stale file handle

This really shouldn't happen.
Since Linux 3.12 (commit 8033426e6bdb) it has been possible to
umount an NFS filesystem, no matter what state it is in.

Since util-linux 2.23 (commit 6d5d2b5fd342308), umount -l or umount -f
should have avoided statting the filesystem.

If you have a new util-linux (mount -V) and new kernel (uname -a),
then I'd be interested to see
  strace -o /tmp/strace -f umount -f /run/......



>
> # mount|grep xen-sr-iso
> 172.16.28.10:/mnt/S2V2/xen-sr-iso on /run/sr-mount/2b5c5c60-3744-c860-28a7-eb106d3a339e type nfs (rw,relatime,vers=3,rsize=131072,wsize=131072,namlen=255,acdirmin=0,acdirmax=0,soft,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=2147483647,sec=sys,mountaddr=172.16.28.10,mountvers=3,mountport=680,mountproto=tcp,local_lock=none,addr=172.16.28.10)
>
> # ls -la
> ls: cannot access 2b5c5c60-3744-c860-28a7-eb106d3a339e: Stale file handle
> total 0
> drwx------  3 root root   60 Feb 18 17:43 .
> drwxr-xr-x 36 root root 1660 Jun  7 18:45 ..
> d?????????  ? ?    ?       ?            ? 2b5c5c60-3744-c860-28a7-eb106d3a339e
>
> Any hint on how to circumvent rebooting to remount the nfs share or proactively avoid stale NFS mounts would be very appreciated. (disabling NFS by module unload/load is no option, as our XEN servers do have other NFS mounts for shared storage)
>
> regards
> Roland
>
> ps:
> I`m not sure if linux-nfs ML will allow anonymous posts (probably not), so maybe someone subscribed be so kind to reply with list cc´ed. I`d like to avoid subscribing to a list because of a single post...
>

We aren't that closed-minded ;-)  Your message went to the list.

NeilBrown

>
>
>
>>List:       linux-nfs
>>Subject:    Re: How to avoid rebooting Linux NFS-client when NFS-server is not available?
>>From:       Peter Funk <pf () artcom-gmbh ! de>
>>Date:       2013-07-26 12:08:49
>>Message-ID: 20130726120849.GA12584 () pfmaster
>>[Download message RAW]
>
>>Dick Streefland wrote 24.07.2013 13:03:
>>> Peter Funk <pf@artcom-gmbh.de> wrote:
>>> | We've researched this question for quite a while now and nobody here
>>> | found a solution to the following problem:
>>> | 
>>> |  1: A Linux computer is NFS client of some other Linux NFS server
>>> |     and has some active mounts and some processes working with files 
>>> |     on that NFS server.  
>>> | 
>>> |  2: Now the NFS server becomes unavailable and a system administrator 
>>> |     wants to clean up the situation on the NFS client computer without 
>>> |     having to reboot this client computer.
>>> | 
>>> | Is this possible?  And if how exactly?
>>> 
>>> What you could try is temporarily add the IP number of the dead NFS
>>> server to another NFS server. The other NFS server should reject any
>>> request for the dead mount, and the client can continue with an error.
>>
>>Indeed: This workaround seems to work!
>>
>>Assume example: The NFS-server has IP 192.168.123.45 and the client
>>has also the nfs-kernel-server package installed and it is running.
>>Then this sequence on the client did the trick::
>>
>>    ifconfig eth0:fakesrv 192.168.123.45 up
>>    umount -f -l ....
>>    umount -f -l ....
>>    ....
>>    ifconfig eth0:fakesrv down
>>
>>Best Regards and many thanks for your suggestion,
>>Peter Funk
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-09  3:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-08  8:49 How to avoid rebooting Linux NFS-client when NFS-server is not available? devzero
2017-06-08 13:34 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-06-08 14:06   ` Aw: " devzero
2017-06-08 14:55     ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-06-09  3:17 ` NeilBrown [this message]
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2013-07-24  9:18 Peter Funk
2013-07-24 11:24 ` Jeff Layton
2013-07-24 13:03 ` Dick Streefland, rnews
2013-07-26 12:08   ` Peter Funk
2013-07-26 14:31     ` Michael Richardson

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