From: Dai Ngo <dai.ngo@oracle.com>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Olga Kornievskaia <okorniev@redhat.com>,
Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: NFSD automatically releases all states when underlying file system is unmounted
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 15:12:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8cb253d2-5877-4b3f-95f0-eadaa85a1d50@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <174242076022.9342.12166225816627715170@noble.neil.brown.name>
On 3/19/25 2:46 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025, Dai Ngo wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Currently when the local file system needs to be unmounted for maintenance
>> the admin needs to make sure all the NFS clients have stopped using any files
>> on the NFS shares before the umount(8) can succeed.
> This is easily achieved with
> echo /path/to/filesystem > /proc/fs/nfsd/unlock_filesystem
>
> Do this after unexporting and before unmounting.
Yes, this works!
>
> All state for NFSv4 exports, and all NLM locks for NFSv2/3 exports, will
> be invalidated and files closed. NFSv4 clients will get
> NFS4ERR_ADMIN_REVOKED when they attempt to use any state that was on
> that filesystem.
In my test, client gets NFS4ERR_STALE for the PUTFH in the GETATTR compound
which is expected.
>
> (I don't think this flushes the NFSv3 file cache, so a short delay might
> be needed before the unmount when v3 is used. That should be fixed)
Thank you very much Neil!
-Dai
>
> NeilBrown
>
>
>> In an environment where there are thousands of clients this manual process
>> seems almost impossible or impractical. The only option available now is to
>> restart the NFS server which would works since the NFS client can recover its
>> state but it seems like this is a big hammer approach.
>>
>> Ideally, when the umount command is run there is a callback from the VFS layer
>> to notify the upper protocols; NFS and SMB, to release its states on this file
>> system for the umount to complete.
>>
>> Is there any existing mechanism to allow NFSD to release its states automatically
>> on unmount?
>>
>> Unmount is not a frequent operation. Is it justifiable to add a bunch of complex
>> code for something is not frequently needed?
>>
>> I appreciate any opinions on this issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Dai
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-19 22:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-19 18:22 NFSD automatically releases all states when underlying file system is unmounted Dai Ngo
2025-03-19 18:28 ` Chuck Lever
2025-03-19 19:00 ` Dai Ngo
2025-03-19 19:24 ` Chuck Lever
2025-03-19 19:44 ` Dai Ngo
2025-03-19 21:46 ` NeilBrown
2025-03-19 22:12 ` Dai Ngo [this message]
2025-03-20 17:53 ` Chuck Lever
2025-03-21 14:36 ` Benjamin Coddington
2025-03-21 14:43 ` Jeff Layton
2025-03-21 15:07 ` Benjamin Coddington
2025-03-21 15:18 ` Chuck Lever
2025-03-21 15:51 ` Benjamin Coddington
2025-03-21 14:44 ` Chuck Lever
2025-03-26 0:23 ` NeilBrown
2025-03-26 3:20 ` Dai Ngo
2025-03-26 3:41 ` NeilBrown
2025-03-26 13:15 ` Chuck Lever
2025-03-27 22:47 ` NeilBrown
2025-04-09 21:00 ` Dai Ngo
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