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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Olga Kornievskaia	 <okorniev@redhat.com>,
	Dai Ngo <Dai.Ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	 Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	 Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Brandon Adams <brandona@meta.com>,
	 linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] sunrpc: add a slot to rqstp->rq_bvec for TCP record marker
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 06:25:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8cbef9511c8b70dfcf7cdaa9a620f931ab170faa.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <176005502018.1793333.5043420085151021396@noble.neil.brown.name>

On Fri, 2025-10-10 at 11:10 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Oct 2025, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Thu, 2025-10-09 at 08:51 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > On Thu, 09 Oct 2025, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > We've seen some occurrences of messages like this in dmesg on some knfsd
> > > > servers:
> > > > 
> > > >     xdr_buf_to_bvec: bio_vec array overflow
> > > > 
> > > > Usually followed by messages like this that indicate a short send (note
> > > > that this message is from an older kernel and the amount that it reports
> > > > attempting to send is short by 4 bytes):
> > > > 
> > > >     rpc-srv/tcp: nfsd: sent 1048155 when sending 1048152 bytes - shutting down socket
> > > > 
> > > > svc_tcp_sendmsg() steals a slot in the rq_bvec array for the TCP record
> > > > marker. If the send is an unaligned READ call though, then there may not
> > > > be enough slots in the rq_bvec array in some cases.
> > > > 
> > > > Add a slot to the rq_bvec array, and fix up the array lengths in the
> > > > callers that care.
> > > > 
> > > > Fixes: e18e157bb5c8 ("SUNRPC: Send RPC message on TCP with a single sock_sendmsg() call")
> > > > Tested-by: Brandon Adams <brandona@meta.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  fs/nfsd/vfs.c        | 6 +++---
> > > >  net/sunrpc/svc.c     | 3 ++-
> > > >  net/sunrpc/svcsock.c | 4 ++--
> > > >  3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > I can't say that I'm liking this patch.
> > > 
> > > There are 11 place where (in nfsd-testing recently) where
> > > rq_maxpages is used (as opposed to declared or assigned).
> > > 
> > > 3 in nfsd/vfs.c
> > > 4 in sunrpc/svc.c
> > > 1 in sunrpc/svc_xprt.c
> > > 2 in sunrpc/svcsock.c
> > > 1 in xprtrdma/svc_rdma_rc.c
> > > 
> > > Your patch changes six of those to add 1.  I guess the others aren't
> > > "callers that care".  It would help to have it clearly stated why, or
> > > why not, a caller might care.
> > > 
> > > But also, what does "rq_maxpages" even mean now?
> > > The comment in svc.h still says "num of entries in rq_pages"
> > > which is certainly no longer the case.
> > > But if it was the case, we should have called it "rq_numpages"
> > > or similar.
> > > But maybe it wasn't meant to be the number of pages in the array,
> > > maybe it was meant to be the maximum number of pages is a request
> > > or a reply.....
> > > No - that is sv_max_mesg, to which we add 2 and 1.
> > > So I could ask "why not just add another 1 in svc_serv_maxpages()?"
> > > Would the callers that might not care be harmed if rq_maxpages were
> > > one larger than it is?
> > > 
> > > It seems to me that rq_maxpages is rather confused and the bug you have
> > > found which requires this patch is some evidence to that confusion.  We
> > > should fix the confusion, not just the bug.
> > > 
> > > So simple question to cut through my waffle:
> > > Would this:
> > > -	return DIV_ROUND_UP(serv->sv_max_mesg, PAGE_SIZE) + 2 + 1;
> > > +	return DIV_ROUND_UP(serv->sv_max_mesg, PAGE_SIZE) + 2 + 1 + 1;
> > > 
> > > fix the problem.  If not, why not?  If so, can we just do this?
> > > then look at renaming rq_maxpages to rq_numpages and audit all the uses
> > > (and maybe you have already audited...).
> > > 
> > 
> > I get the objection. I'm not crazy about all of the adjustments either.
> > 
> > rq_maxpages is used to size two fields in the rqstp: rq_pages and
> > rq_bvec. It turns out that they both want rq_maxpages + 1 slots. The
> > rq_pages array needs the extra slot for a NULL terminator, and rq_bvec
> > needs it for the TCP record marker.
> 
> Somehow the above para helped a lot for me to understand what the issue
> is here - thanks.
> 
> rq_bvec is used for two quite separate purposes.
> 
> nfsd/vfs.c uses it to assemble read/write requests to send to the
> filesystem.
> sunrpc/svcsock.c uses to assemble send/recv requests to send to the
> network.
> 
> It might help me if this were documented clearly in svc.h as I seem to
> have had to discover several times now :-(
> 
> Should these even use the same rq_bvec?  I guess it makes sense to share
> but we should be cautious about letting the needs of one side infect the
> code of the other side.
> 
> So if we increase the size of rq_bvec to meet the needs of svcsock.c, do
> we need to make *any* code changes to vfs.c?  I doubt it.
> 
> It bothers me a little bit that svc_tcp_sendmsg() needs to allocate a
> frag.  But given that it does, could it also allocate a larger bvec if
> rq_bvec isn't big enough?
> 
> Or should svc_tcp_recvfrom() allocate the frag and make sure the bvec is
> big enough ......
> Or svc_alloc_arg() could check with each active transport for any
> preallocation requirements...
> Or svc_create_socket() could update some "bvec_size" field in svc_serv
> which svc_alloc_arg() could check an possibly realloc rq_bvec.
> 
> I'm rambling a bit here.  I agree with Chuck (and you) that it would be
> nice if this need for a larger bvec were kept local to svcsock code if
> possible.
> 
> But I'm fairly confident that the current problem doesn't justify any
> changes to vfs.c.  svc.c probably needs to somehow be involved in
> rq_bvec being bigger and svcsock.c certainly needs to be able to make
> use of the extra space, but that seems to be all that is required.
> 

I sent a v3 patch which adds a separate rq_bvec_len field and uses that
in the places where the code is iterating over the rq_bvec. That does
change places in vfs.c, but I think it makes the code clearer. Are you
OK with that version?

Thanks,
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-10 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-08 20:23 [PATCH v2 0/2] sunrpc: fix handling of rq_bvec array in svc_rqst Jeff Layton
2025-10-08 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] sunrpc: account for TCP record marker in rq_bvec array when sending Jeff Layton
2025-10-08 21:32   ` NeilBrown
2025-10-08 20:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] sunrpc: add a slot to rqstp->rq_bvec for TCP record marker Jeff Layton
2025-10-08 21:51   ` NeilBrown
2025-10-09  0:08     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-10-09 12:22     ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-10  0:10       ` NeilBrown
2025-10-10 10:25         ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2025-10-10 10:47           ` NeilBrown
2025-10-10 12:47         ` Chuck Lever

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