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From: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu>
Cc: Timo Rothenpieler <timo@rothenpieler.org>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dai Ngo <dai.ngo@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Spurious instability with NFSoRDMA under moderate load
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 18:51:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95DB2B47-F370-4787-96D9-07CE2F551AFD@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN-5tyHNvYWd1M7sfZNV5q3Y_GZA2-DoTd=CxYvniZ1zkB5hyw@mail.gmail.com>



> On Aug 11, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 1:30 PM Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Timo Rothenpieler <timo@rothenpieler.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> resulting dmesg and trace logs of both client and server are attached.
>>> 
>>> Test procedure:
>>> 
>>> - start tracing on client and server
>>> - mount NFS on client
>>> - immediately run 'xfs_io -fc "copy_range testfile" testfile.copy' (which succeeds)
>>> - wait 10~15 minutes for the backchannel to time out (still running 5.12.19 with the fix for that reverted)
>>> - run xfs_io command again, getting stuck now
>>> - let it sit there stuck for a minute, then cancel it
>>> - run the command again
>>> - while it's still stuck, finished recording the logs and traces
>> 
>> The server tries to send CB_OFFLOAD when the offloaded copy
>> completes, but finds the backchannel transport is not connected.
>> 
>> The server can't report the problem until the client sends a
>> SEQUENCE operation, but there's really no other traffic going
>> on, so it just waits.
>> 
>> The client eventually sends a singleton SEQUENCE to renew its
>> lease. The server replies with the SEQ4_STATUS_BACKCHANNEL_FAULT
>> flag set at that point. Client's recovery is to destroy that
>> session and create a new one. That appears to be successful.
>> 
>> But the server doesn't send another CB_OFFLOAD to let the client
>> know the copy is complete, so the client hangs.
>> 
>> This seems to be peculiar to COPY_OFFLOAD, but I wonder if the
>> other CB operations suffer from the same "failed to retransmit
>> after the CB path is restored" issue. It might not matter for
>> some of them, but for others like CB_RECALL, that could be
>> important.
> 
> Thank you for the analysis Chuck (btw I haven't seen any attachments
> with Timo's posts so I'm assuming some offline communication must have
> happened).
> ?
> I'm looking at the code and wouldn't the mentioned flags be set on the
> CB_SEQUENCE operation?

CB_SEQUENCE is sent from server to client, and that can't work if
the callback channel is down.

So the server waits for the client to send a SEQUENCE and it sets
the SEQ4_STATUS_BACKCHANNEL_FAULT in its reply.


> nfsd4_cb_done() has code to mark the channel
> and retry (or another way of saying this, this code should generically
> handle retrying whatever operation it is be it CB_OFFLOAD or
> CB_RECALL)?

cb_done() marks the callback fault, but as far as I can tell the
RPC is terminated at that point and there is no subsequent retry.
The RPC_TASK flags on the CB_OFFLOAD operation cause that RPC to
fail immediately if there's no connection.

And in the BACKCHANNEL_FAULT case, the bc_xprt is destroyed as
part of recovery. I think that would kill all pending RPC tasks.


> Is that not working (not sure if this is  a question or a
> statement).... I would think that would be the place to handle this
> problem.

IMHO the OFFLOAD code needs to note that the CB_OFFLOAD RPC
failed and then try the call again once the new backchannel is
available.


--
Chuck Lever




  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-11 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-16 17:29 Spurious instability with NFSoRDMA under moderate load Timo Rothenpieler
2021-05-17 16:27 ` Chuck Lever III
2021-05-17 17:37   ` Timo Rothenpieler
2021-06-21 16:06     ` Timo Rothenpieler
2021-06-21 16:28       ` Chuck Lever III
2021-08-10 12:49       ` Timo Rothenpieler
     [not found]         ` <a28b403e-42cf-3189-a4db-86d20da1b7aa@rothenpieler.org>
2021-08-10 17:17           ` Chuck Lever III
2021-08-10 21:40             ` Timo Rothenpieler
     [not found]               ` <141fdf51-2aa1-6614-fe4e-96f168cbe6cf@rothenpieler.org>
2021-08-11  0:19                 ` Chuck Lever III
     [not found]                   ` <64F9A492-44B9-4057-ABA5-C8202828A8DD@oracle.com>
     [not found]                     ` <1b8a24a9-5dba-3faf-8b0a-16e728a6051c@rothenpieler.org>
     [not found]                       ` <5DD80ADC-0A4B-4D95-8CF7-29096439DE9D@oracle.com>
     [not found]                         ` <0444ca5c-e8b6-1d80-d8a5-8469daa74970@rothenpieler.org>
     [not found]                           ` <cc2f55cd-57d4-d7c3-ed83-8b81ea60d821@rothenpieler.org>
2021-08-11 17:30                             ` Chuck Lever III
2021-08-11 18:38                               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-08-11 18:51                                 ` Chuck Lever III [this message]
2021-08-11 19:46                                   ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-08-11 20:01                                     ` Chuck Lever III
2021-08-11 20:14                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-08-11 20:40                                         ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-08-12 15:40                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-08-11 20:51                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-08-11 20:51                                       ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-08-12 18:13                               ` Timo Rothenpieler
2021-08-16 13:26                                 ` Chuck Lever III
2021-08-20 15:12                                   ` Chuck Lever III
2021-08-20 16:21                                     ` Timo Rothenpieler
     [not found]                                     ` <60273c2e-e946-25fb-68af-975f793e73d2@rothenpieler.org>
2021-10-29 15:14                                       ` Chuck Lever III
2021-10-29 18:17                                         ` Timo Rothenpieler
2021-10-29 19:06                                           ` Chuck Lever III
2021-08-17 21:08                                 ` Chuck Lever III
2021-08-17 21:51                                   ` Timo Rothenpieler
2021-08-17 22:55                                     ` dai.ngo
2021-08-17 23:05                                       ` dai.ngo
2021-08-18 16:55                                         ` Chuck Lever III
2021-08-18  0:03                                     ` Timo Rothenpieler
2021-05-19 15:20   ` Leon Romanovsky

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