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From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@ORACLE.COM>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: NFSv4 mounts take longer the fail from ENETUNREACH than NFSv3 mounts.
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:29:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C56CFB9A-FCA4-41DA-971F-49B9C9EE7F03@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101020181701.232dbeea@notabene>


On Oct 20, 2010, at 3:17 AM, Neil Brown wrote:

> 
> 
> If I don't have any network configured (except loop-back), and try an NFSv3
> mount, then it fails quickly:
> 
> 
> ....
> mount.nfs: portmap query failed: RPC: Remote system error - Network is unreachable
> mount.nfs: Network is unreachable
> 
> 
> If I try the same thing with a NFSv4 mount, it times out before it fails,
> making a much longer delay.
> 
> This is because mount.nfs doesn't do a portmap lookup but just leaves
> everything to the kernel.
> The kernel does an 'rpc_ping()' which sets RPC_TASK_SOFTCONN.
> So at least it doesn't retry after the timeout.  But given that we have a
> clear error, we shouldn't timeout at all.
> 
> Unfortunately I cannot see an easy way to fix this.
> 
> The place where ENETUNREACH is in xs_tcp_setup_socket.  The comment there
> says "Retry with the same socket after a delay".  The "delay" bit is correct,
> the "retry" isn't.
> 
> It would seem that we should just add a 'goto out' there if RPC_TASK_SOFTCONN
> was set.  However we cannot see the task at this point - in fact it seems
> that there could be a queue of tasks waiting on this connection.  I guess
> some could be soft, and some not. ???
> 
> So: An suggestions how to get a ENETUNREACH (or ECONNREFUSED or similar) to
> fail immediately when  RPC_TASK_SOFTCONN is set ???

ECONNREFUSED should already fail immediately in this case.  If it's not failing immediately, that's a bug.

I agree that ENETUNREACH seems appropriate for quick failure if RPC_TASK_SOFTCONN is set.  (I thought it already worked this way, but maybe I'm mistaken).

> This affects people who upgrade from openSUSE11.2 (which didn't support v4
> mounts) to openSUSE11.3 (which defaults to v4) and who use network-manager
> (which configures networks late) and have NFS mounts in /etc/fstab with
> either explicit IP addresses or host names that can be resolved without the
> network.
> This config will work because when the network comes up, network-manager will
> re-run the 'init.d/nfs' script.  However since 11.3 there is an unpleasant
> pause before boot completes.


-- 
chuck[dot]lever[at]oracle[dot]com





  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-20 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-20  7:17 NFSv4 mounts take longer the fail from ENETUNREACH than NFSv3 mounts Neil Brown
2010-10-20 14:29 ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2010-10-20 21:29   ` Neil Brown
2010-10-21  0:56     ` Neil Brown
2010-10-21 12:09       ` Jeff Layton
2010-10-21 13:52         ` Chuck Lever
2010-10-21 14:10       ` Chuck Lever
2010-10-20 17:55 ` Jeff Layton
2010-10-20 19:16   ` Jeff Layton
2010-10-20 20:40     ` Neil Brown
2010-10-21  0:45       ` Jeff Layton
2010-10-21  3:25         ` Neil Brown
2010-10-21 14:05           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-10-21 14:31             ` Chuck Lever
2010-10-21 14:42               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-10-21 19:40                 ` Jeff Layton
2010-10-21 19:47                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-10-21 20:08                     ` Jeff Layton
2010-10-21 20:18                       ` Trond Myklebust
2011-03-23  6:41                         ` NeilBrown

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