From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Mandeep Singh Baines <msb@chromium.org>,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: LOCKDEP: 3.9-rc1: mount.nfs/4272 still has locks held!
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 08:25:10 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFySyBP8q5AvPrt-s_ZPdgamfoX-dERw4EJ21EcsDLBjYA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FA345DA4F4AE44899BD2B03EEEC2FA9286B511E@sacexcmbx05-prd.hq.netapp.com>
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Myklebust, Trond
<Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> wrote:
>
> It _shouldn't_ be an interruption unless the filesystem can't make
> progress.
So how can we tell? Calling "freezable_schedule()" if you're not ready
to be frozen is not good. And nobody but the NFS code can know.
You might want to introduce some counter that counts number of
outstanding non-interruptible events, and only call the "freezable"
version if that counter is zero.
A better alternative might be to *never* call the freezable version.
Because those freezable_*() things are really quite disgusting, and
are wrong - they don't actually freeze the process, they say "I don't
care if you freeze me while I sleep", and you might actually wake up
*while* the system is being frozen. I think the whole concept is
broken. Rafaei - comments? The function really is crap, regardless of
any unrelated NFS problems.
So what NFS could do instead is actually check the "do I need to
freeze" flag, and if you need to freeze you consider it an abort - and
do *not* try to continue. Just freeze, and then act as if the machine
got rebooted as far as NFS was concerned. That should work anyway, no?
That does sound a lot more complex, though.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-07 16:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-04 13:57 LOCKDEP: 3.9-rc1: mount.nfs/4272 still has locks held! Ming Lei
2013-03-04 14:14 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-04 14:23 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-04 19:55 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2013-03-04 20:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-04 22:08 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-05 13:23 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-05 17:46 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-05 17:49 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-05 19:03 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-05 19:09 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-05 23:39 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-05 23:47 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-06 18:16 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-06 18:53 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-06 21:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-06 21:24 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-06 21:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-06 21:36 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-06 21:40 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-13 15:17 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-31 0:07 ` Paul Walmsley
2013-03-07 11:41 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-07 15:25 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-07 15:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-07 15:59 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-07 16:25 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2013-03-07 16:45 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-07 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-03-07 17:16 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-07 21:43 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-08 14:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-03-07 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-03-07 16:00 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-06 18:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-03-06 18:40 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-06 18:45 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-06 1:10 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-06 1:14 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-06 1:28 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-06 12:00 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-05 23:11 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-06 0:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-03-06 0:30 ` [PATCH] lockdep: make lock held while freezing check optional Mandeep Singh Baines
2013-03-07 12:03 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2013-03-06 0:59 ` LOCKDEP: 3.9-rc1: mount.nfs/4272 still has locks held! Mandeep Singh Baines
2013-03-06 1:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-06 1:16 ` Tejun Heo
2013-03-06 3:11 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2013-03-06 9:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-03-06 12:06 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-06 15:59 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2013-03-06 18:23 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-06 18:37 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-06 20:15 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2013-03-04 14:40 ` Ming Lei
2013-03-04 15:04 ` Jeff Layton
2013-03-04 15:33 ` Ming Lei
2013-03-04 15:53 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-04 20:09 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2013-03-04 20:10 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
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