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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	"Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	Zach Brown <zab@redhat.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <schumaker.anna@gmail.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-Fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Schumaker, Bryan" <Bryan.Schumaker@netapp.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <mkp@mkp.net>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@suse.com>, Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
	Eric Wong <normalperson@yhbt.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC] extending splice for copy offloading
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:57:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegvvN_5c5oMv8UoODXQHc-DQnijhOtPDXmNamVpQLDoWMQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52498F68.8050200@redhat.com>

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 09/30/2013 10:46 AM, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The way the array based offload (and some software side reflink works) is
>>> not a byte by byte copy. We cannot assume that a valid count can be
>>> returned
>>> or that such a count would be an indication of a sequential segment of
>>> good
>>> data.  The whole thing would normally have to be reissued.
>>>
>>> To make that a true assumption, you would have to mandate that in each of
>>> the specifications (and sw targets)...
>>
>> You're missing my point.
>>
>>   - user issues SIZE_MAX splice request
>>   - fs issues *64M* (or whatever) request to offload
>>   - when that completes *fully* then we return 64M to userspace
>>   - if it completes partially, then we return an error to userspace
>>
>> Again, wouldn't that work?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Miklos
>
>
> Yes, if you send a copy offload command and it works, you can assume that it
> worked fully. It would be pretty interesting if that were not true :)
>
> If it fails, we cannot assume anything about partial completion.

Sure, that was my understanding from the start.  Maybe I wasn't
precise enough in my explanation.

Thanks,
Miklos

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-30 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-11 17:06 [RFC] extending splice for copy offloading Zach Brown
2013-09-11 17:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] splice: add DIRECT flag for splicing between files Zach Brown
2013-09-11 17:06 ` [PATCH 2/3] splice: add f_op->splice_direct Zach Brown
2013-09-11 17:06 ` [PATCH 3/3] btrfs: implement .splice_direct extent copying Zach Brown
2013-09-11 21:17 ` [RFC] extending splice for copy offloading Eric Wong
2013-09-16 19:44   ` Rob Landley
2013-09-19 12:59   ` Jeff Layton
2013-09-20  9:49 ` Szeredi Miklos
2013-09-25 18:38   ` Zach Brown
2013-09-25 19:02     ` Anna Schumaker
2013-09-25 19:06       ` Zach Brown
2013-09-25 19:55         ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-09-25 21:07           ` Zach Brown
2013-09-26  8:58             ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-09-26 15:34               ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-09-26 16:46                 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-26 18:06                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-09-26 19:06                   ` Zach Brown
2013-09-26 19:53                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-09-26 21:23                       ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-27  4:47                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-09-27 14:00                           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-27 14:39                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-10-06  8:42                   ` Rob Landley
2013-09-26 18:55               ` Zach Brown
2013-09-26 21:26                 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-27 20:05                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-09-27 20:50                     ` Zach Brown
2013-09-28  5:49                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-09-28 15:20                         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-28 21:20                           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-30 12:20                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-09-30 14:34                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-09-30 14:48                                 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-30 14:51                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-09-30 14:52                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-30 15:24                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-09-30 14:28                                       ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-30 15:33                                         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-30 15:38                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-09-30 14:41                                           ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-30 15:46                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-09-30 14:49                                               ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-30 15:57                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2013-09-30 16:31                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-09-30 17:17                                                     ` Bernd Schubert
2013-09-30 17:44                                                       ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-30 17:48                                                         ` Bernd Schubert
2013-09-30 18:02                                                           ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-30 18:49                                                             ` Bernd Schubert
2013-09-30 19:34                                                               ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-30 20:00                                                                 ` Bernd Schubert
2013-09-30 20:08                                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2013-09-30 20:27                                                                     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-30 20:10                                                                   ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-01 18:42                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-01 19:58                                       ` Zach Brown
2013-10-02 12:58                                         ` Jan Kara
2013-10-02 13:31                                           ` David Lang
2013-12-18 12:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-12-18 17:10   ` Zach Brown
2013-12-18 17:26     ` Anna Schumaker

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