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From: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Dan Shelton <dan.f.shelton@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Public NFSv4 handle?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 21:16:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DC9FA9D4-C25F-443B-B8AF-60CB3C8792A6@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAvCNcAsow-QTPYLm0fUNX3K5X4Aci=aFi+hi4a0S8k19oa-KA@mail.gmail.com>



> On Feb 13, 2024, at 3:28 PM, Dan Shelton <dan.f.shelton@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 at 16:32, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 21:37 -0500, Tom Talpey wrote:
>>> On 2/8/2024 7:19 PM, Dan Shelton wrote:
>>>> ?
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 at 02:48, Dan Shelton <dan.f.shelton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do the Linux NFSv4 server and client support the NFS public handle?
>>> 
>>> Are you referring the the old WebNFS stuff? That was a v2/v3 thing,
>>> and, I believe, only ever supported by Solaris.
>>> 
>> 
>> One more try! I think my MUA was having issues this morning.
>> 
>> NFSv4.1 supports the PUTPUBFH op:
>> 
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8881.html#name-operation-23-putpubfh-set-p
>> 
>> ...but this op is only for backward compatibility. The Linux server
>> returns the rootfh (as it SHOULD).
> 
> No, I do not consider this "backward compatibility". The "public"
> option is also intended for public servers, like package mirrors (e.g.
> Debian), to have a better solution than http or ftp.
> 
> What does it take to implement a "public" export option?

For starters, I'd like to see a less nebulous user story that
explains why NFSD's PUTPUBFH operation is not adequate.

Unauthenticated clients can already mount an NFSv4 server's
psuedoroot via a well-known path ("/") and descend into any
publicly-accessible exported directory. That is typically
sufficient for streaming servers, package mirrors, and many
other kinds of distribution services.

Can you explain what else is needed?


--
Chuck Lever



      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-13 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-25  1:48 Public NFSv4 handle? Dan Shelton
2024-02-09  0:19 ` Dan Shelton
2024-02-09  2:37   ` Tom Talpey
2024-02-09 11:09     ` Jeff Layton
2024-02-09 14:52     ` Jeff Layton
2024-02-09 15:32     ` Jeff Layton
2024-02-13 20:28       ` Dan Shelton
2024-02-13 20:42         ` Jeff Layton
2024-02-13 20:58         ` Trond Myklebust
2024-02-14  6:12           ` Cedric Blancher
2024-02-15 17:25             ` Frank Filz
2024-02-13 21:16         ` Chuck Lever III [this message]

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