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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: "J.  Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] BTRFS/NFSD: provide more unique inode number for btrfs export
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:20:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YSkQ31UTVDtBavOO@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <162995778427.7591.11743795294299207756@noble.neil.brown.name>

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 04:03:04PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> 
> [[ Hi Bruce and Chuck,
>    I've rebased this patch on the earlier patch I sent which allows
>    me to use the name "fh_flags".  I've also added a missing #include.
>    I've added the 'Acked-by' which Joesf provided earlier for the
>    btrfs-part.  I don't have an 'ack' for the  stat.h part, but no-one
>    has complained wither.
>    I think it is as ready as it can be, and am keen to know what you
>    think.
>    I'm not *very* keen on testing s_magic in nfsd code (though we
>    already have a couple of such tests in nfs3proc.c), but it does have
>    the advantage of ensuring that no other filesystem can use this
>    functionality without landing a patch in fs/nfsd/.
>  
>    Thanks for any review that you can provide,
>    NeilBrown
> ]]
> 
> BTRFS does not provide unique inode numbers across a filesystem.
> It only provides unique inode numbers within a subvolume and
> uses synthetic device numbers for different subvolumes to ensure
> uniqueness for device+inode.
> 
> nfsd cannot use these varying synthetic device numbers.  If nfsd were to
> synthesise different stable filesystem ids to give to the client, that
> would cause subvolumes to appear in the mount table on the client, even
> though they don't appear in the mount table on the server.  Also, NFSv3
> doesn't support changing the filesystem id without a new explicit mount
> on the client (this is partially supported in practice, but violates the
> protocol specification and has problems in some edge cases).
> 
> So currently, the roots of all subvolumes report the same inode number
> in the same filesystem to NFS clients and tools like 'find' notice that
> a directory has the same identity as an ancestor, and so refuse to
> enter that directory.
> 
> This patch allows btrfs (or any filesystem) to provide a 64bit number
> that can be xored with the inode number to make the number more unique.
> Rather than the client being certain to see duplicates, with this patch
> it is possible but extremely rare.

Yikes.  Please don't do something like this that will eventually
cause collisions.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-27 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-26  4:28 [PATCH] NFSD: drop support for ancient file-handles NeilBrown
2021-08-26  6:03 ` [PATCH v2] BTRFS/NFSD: provide more unique inode number for btrfs export NeilBrown
2021-08-26 20:19   ` J.  Bruce Fields
2021-08-26 22:10     ` NeilBrown
2021-08-27 14:53       ` Frank Filz
2021-08-27 22:57         ` NeilBrown
2021-08-27 23:46           ` Frank Filz
2021-08-27 23:55             ` NeilBrown
2021-08-28  2:21               ` Frank Filz
2021-08-27 18:32       ` J.  Bruce Fields
2021-08-27 23:01         ` NeilBrown
2021-08-27 16:20   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2021-08-27 23:05     ` NeilBrown
2021-08-28  7:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-31  4:59         ` NeilBrown
2021-09-01  7:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-01 15:22             ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-09-02  4:14               ` NeilBrown
2021-09-05 16:07                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-09-06  1:29                   ` NeilBrown
2021-09-11 14:12                     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-09-13  0:43                       ` NeilBrown
2021-09-13 10:04                         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-09-13 22:59                           ` NeilBrown
2021-09-14  5:45                             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-09-20 22:09                               ` NeilBrown
2021-09-02  7:11               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-02  4:06             ` NeilBrown
2021-09-02  7:16               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-02  7:53                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-09-02 14:16                   ` Frank Filz
2021-09-02 23:02                     ` NeilBrown
2021-08-26 14:10 ` [PATCH] NFSD: drop support for ancient file-handles Chuck Lever III
2021-08-26 21:38   ` NeilBrown
2021-08-26 14:51 ` J.  Bruce Fields
2021-08-26 21:41   ` NeilBrown
2021-08-27 15:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-27 23:24   ` NeilBrown
2021-08-31  4:41   ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] NFSD: drop support for ancient filehandles NeilBrown
2021-08-31  4:42     ` [PATCH 2/2] NFSD: simplify struct nfsfh NeilBrown
2021-09-01  7:44       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-01  7:44     ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] NFSD: drop support for ancient filehandles Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-01 14:21       ` Chuck Lever III
2021-09-02  1:14         ` [PATCH 1/3 v3] NFSD: move filehandle format declarations out of "uapi" NeilBrown
2021-09-02  1:15           ` [PATCH 2/3 v3] NFSD: drop support for ancient filehandles NeilBrown
2021-09-02  1:16             ` [PATCH 3/3 v3] NFSD: simplify struct nfsfh NeilBrown
2021-09-02  7:22             ` [PATCH 2/3 v3] NFSD: drop support for ancient filehandles Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-02  7:21           ` [PATCH 1/3 v3] NFSD: move filehandle format declarations out of "uapi" Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-23 21:21           ` Bruce Fields
2021-09-25  4:21             ` NeilBrown
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-07-27 22:37 [PATCH/RFC 00/11] expose btrfs subvols in mount table correctly NeilBrown
2021-08-13  1:45 ` [PATCH] VFS/BTRFS/NFSD: provide more unique inode number for btrfs export NeilBrown
2021-08-15  7:39   ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2021-08-15 19:35     ` Roman Mamedov
2021-08-15 22:17       ` NeilBrown
2021-08-23  4:05         ` [PATCH v2] BTRFS/NFSD: " NeilBrown

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