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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] BTRFS/NFSD: provide more unique inode number for btrfs export
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 08:09:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YSnhHl0HDOgg07U5@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <163010550851.7591.9342822614202739406@noble.neil.brown.name>

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 09:05:08AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> There doesn't seem to be any other option - and this is still an
> improvement over the current behaviour.
> 
> Collisions should still be quite a few years away, and there is hope
> that the btrfs developers will take action before then to provide some
> certainty.   Not much hope, but some.

I think that is a very dangerous assumption.  Given how every inode
allocation tends to be somewhat predictable I'm also really worried
that this actually opens up an attach vector.  Last but not least
I also very much disagree with any of the impact to common code.
Most importantly the kstat structure, which exist to support the stat
family of system calls and not as a side channel for NFS file handles
(nevermind that it is hidden in a nfs patch and didn't even Cc the
fsdevel list), but also all the impact to the generic nfsd code for
this very broken concept.  If you want to support such a scheme in
btrfs as the lesser of evils (which I disagree with), please make
sure it stays self-contained in the btrfs specific file handle
encoding and decoding.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-28  7:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-26  4:28 [PATCH] NFSD: drop support for ancient file-handles NeilBrown
2021-08-26  6:03 ` [PATCH v2] BTRFS/NFSD: provide more unique inode number for btrfs export NeilBrown
2021-08-26 20:19   ` J.  Bruce Fields
2021-08-26 22:10     ` NeilBrown
2021-08-27 14:53       ` Frank Filz
2021-08-27 22:57         ` NeilBrown
2021-08-27 23:46           ` Frank Filz
2021-08-27 23:55             ` NeilBrown
2021-08-28  2:21               ` Frank Filz
2021-08-27 18:32       ` J.  Bruce Fields
2021-08-27 23:01         ` NeilBrown
2021-08-27 16:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-27 23:05     ` NeilBrown
2021-08-28  7:09       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2021-08-31  4:59         ` NeilBrown
2021-09-01  7:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-01 15:22             ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-09-02  4:14               ` NeilBrown
2021-09-05 16:07                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-09-06  1:29                   ` NeilBrown
2021-09-11 14:12                     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-09-13  0:43                       ` NeilBrown
2021-09-13 10:04                         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-09-13 22:59                           ` NeilBrown
2021-09-14  5:45                             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-09-20 22:09                               ` NeilBrown
2021-09-02  7:11               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-02  4:06             ` NeilBrown
2021-09-02  7:16               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-02  7:53                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2021-09-02 14:16                   ` Frank Filz
2021-09-02 23:02                     ` NeilBrown
2021-08-26 14:10 ` [PATCH] NFSD: drop support for ancient file-handles Chuck Lever III
2021-08-26 21:38   ` NeilBrown
2021-08-26 14:51 ` J.  Bruce Fields
2021-08-26 21:41   ` NeilBrown
2021-08-27 15:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-08-27 23:24   ` NeilBrown
2021-08-31  4:41   ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] NFSD: drop support for ancient filehandles NeilBrown
2021-08-31  4:42     ` [PATCH 2/2] NFSD: simplify struct nfsfh NeilBrown
2021-09-01  7:44       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-01  7:44     ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] NFSD: drop support for ancient filehandles Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-01 14:21       ` Chuck Lever III
2021-09-02  1:14         ` [PATCH 1/3 v3] NFSD: move filehandle format declarations out of "uapi" NeilBrown
2021-09-02  1:15           ` [PATCH 2/3 v3] NFSD: drop support for ancient filehandles NeilBrown
2021-09-02  1:16             ` [PATCH 3/3 v3] NFSD: simplify struct nfsfh NeilBrown
2021-09-02  7:22             ` [PATCH 2/3 v3] NFSD: drop support for ancient filehandles Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-02  7:21           ` [PATCH 1/3 v3] NFSD: move filehandle format declarations out of "uapi" Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-23 21:21           ` Bruce Fields
2021-09-25  4:21             ` NeilBrown
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-07-27 22:37 [PATCH/RFC 00/11] expose btrfs subvols in mount table correctly NeilBrown
2021-08-13  1:45 ` [PATCH] VFS/BTRFS/NFSD: provide more unique inode number for btrfs export NeilBrown
2021-08-15  7:39   ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2021-08-15 19:35     ` Roman Mamedov
2021-08-15 22:17       ` NeilBrown
2021-08-23  4:05         ` [PATCH v2] BTRFS/NFSD: " NeilBrown

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