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From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com,
	neilb@suse.de, netdev@vger.kernel.org, kuba@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/3] NFSD: convert write_ports to netlink command
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 12:39:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZWjI6ppENVu2FPIo@tissot.1015granger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e85381f3d7575d8784f54c5a3abdb60be190c4af.camel@kernel.org>

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 11:55:29AM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-11-30 at 11:22 -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Thu, 2023-11-30 at 10:57 +0100, Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > +/* ============== NFSD_CMD_LISTENER_START ============== */
> > > > > +/* NFSD_CMD_LISTENER_START - do */
> > > > > +struct nfsd_listener_start_req {
> > > > > +	struct {
> > > > > +		__u32 transport_name_len;
> > > > > +		__u32 port:1;
> > > > > +	} _present;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	char *transport_name;
> > > > > +	__u32 port;
> > > > > +};
> > > > 
> > > > How do you deconfigure a listener with this interface? i.e. suppose I
> > > > want to stop nfsd from listening on a particular port? I think this too
> > > > is a place where a declarative interface would be better:
> > > 
> > > Is it possible with current APIs? as for 2/3 so far I have just added netlink
> > > counter for current implementation but I am fine to change the logic here to
> > > better APIs.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > No, I don't think you can do this with the current API at all. I
> > consider it a major deficiency. I don't think we want to repeat that
> > mistake in the new interface.
> > 
> > > > Have userland send down a list of the ports that we should currently be
> > > > listening on, and let the kernel do the work to match the request. Again
> > > > too, an empty list could mean "close everything".
> 
> Another thought: should this interface also report and allow you to
> specify the address to listen on?
> 
> When the write_ports interface was first created, it lacked a field for
> the address to listen on. Later we added a way to just hand off a socket
> to the kernel to pass that info.
> 
> I think it's possible today to send down a socket that only listens on a
> particular address, and you have no real way to tell that with the
> current "ports" file.

All agreed, but listening on a particular address isn't something we
need today. (Or is it?)

Does the socket-passing thing work for non socket-based transports
like RDMA? I would think that mechanism is legacy.


> Should we instead plumb a complete struct sockaddr_storage (or some
> other suitable address structure) into this interface?

How difficult would it be to add this later, when we actually have a
specific use case?


-- 
Chuck Lever

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-30 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-29 17:12 [PATCH v5 0/3] convert write_threads, write_version and write_ports to netlink commands Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-11-29 17:12 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] NFSD: convert write_threads to netlink command Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-11-29 18:13   ` Jeff Layton
2023-11-29 18:31     ` Chuck Lever
2023-11-30  0:32       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-29 17:12 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] NFSD: convert write_version " Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-11-29 18:23   ` Jeff Layton
2023-11-30  9:45     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-11-30 16:17       ` Jeff Layton
2023-11-30 16:11     ` Chuck Lever
2023-11-30 16:25       ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-11-30 16:29         ` Chuck Lever
2023-11-30 16:32           ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-11-30  0:28   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-30 10:32     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-12-01  7:28       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-05 20:33   ` Simon Horman
2023-11-29 17:12 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] NFSD: convert write_ports " Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-11-29 18:28   ` Jeff Layton
2023-11-30  9:57     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2023-11-30 16:22       ` Jeff Layton
2023-11-30 16:55         ` Jeff Layton
2023-11-30 17:39           ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2023-11-30 18:01             ` Jeff Layton
2023-11-30 18:34               ` Chuck Lever
2023-12-05 20:37   ` Simon Horman

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