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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	snitzer@hammerspace.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 17/18] nfs: add Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 18:35:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZnSuunNIgmhERwCm@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <171892157698.14261.16357981881792326304@noble.neil.brown.name>

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 08:12:56AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2024, Chuck Lever wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 04:40:31PM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > > This document gives an overview of the LOCALIO auxiliary RPC protocol
> > > added to the Linux NFS client and server (both v3 and v4) to allow a
> > > client and server to reliably handshake to determine if they are on the
> > > same host.  The LOCALIO auxiliary protocol's implementation, which uses
> > > the same connection as NFS traffic, follows the pattern established by
> > > the NFS ACL protocol extension.
> > > 
> > > The robust handshake between local client and server is just the
> > > beginning, the ultimate usecase this locality makes possible is the
> > > client is able to issue reads, writes and commits directly to the server
> > > without having to go over the network.  This is particularly useful for
> > > container usecases (e.g. kubernetes) where it is possible to run an IO
> > > job local to the server.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
> > > ---
> > >  Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst | 148 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  include/linux/nfslocalio.h                |   2 +
> > >  2 files changed, 150 insertions(+)
> > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..a43c3dab2cab
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,148 @@
> > > +===========
> > > +NFS localio
> > > +===========
> > > +
> > > +This document gives an overview of the LOCALIO auxiliary RPC protocol
> > > +added to the Linux NFS client and server (both v3 and v4) to allow a
> > > +client and server to reliably handshake to determine if they are on the
> > > +same host.  The LOCALIO auxiliary protocol's implementation, which uses
> > > +the same connection as NFS traffic, follows the pattern established by
> > > +the NFS ACL protocol extension.
> > > +
> > > +The LOCALIO auxiliary protocol is needed to allow robust discovery of
> > > +clients local to their servers.  Prior to this LOCALIO protocol a
> > > +fragile sockaddr network address based match against all local network
> > > +interfaces was attempted.  But unlike the LOCALIO protocol, the
> > > +sockaddr-based matching didn't handle use of iptables or containers.
> > > +
> > > +The robust handshake between local client and server is just the
> > > +beginning, the ultimate usecase this locality makes possible is the
> > > +client is able to issue reads, writes and commits directly to the server
> > > +without having to go over the network.  This is particularly useful for
> > > +container usecases (e.g. kubernetes) where it is possible to run an IO
> > > +job local to the server.
> > > +
> > > +The performance advantage realized from localio's ability to bypass
> > > +using XDR and RPC for reads, writes and commits can be extreme, e.g.:
> > > +fio for 20 secs with 24 libaio threads, 64k directio reads, qd of 8,
> > > +-  With localio:
> > > +  read: IOPS=691k, BW=42.2GiB/s (45.3GB/s)(843GiB/20002msec)
> > > +-  Without localio:
> > > +  read: IOPS=15.7k, BW=984MiB/s (1032MB/s)(19.2GiB/20013msec)
> > > +
> > > +RPC
> > > +---
> > > +
> > > +The LOCALIO auxiliary RPC protocol consists of a single "GETUUID" RPC
> > > +method that allows the Linux nfs client to retrieve a Linux nfs server's
> > > +uuid.  This protocol isn't part of an IETF standard, nor does it need to
> > > +be considering it is Linux-to-Linux auxiliary RPC protocol that amounts
> > > +to an implementation detail.
> > > +
> > > +The GETUUID method encodes the server's uuid_t in terms of the fixed
> > > +UUID_SIZE (16 bytes).  The fixed size opaque encode and decode XDR
> > > +methods are used instead of the less efficient variable sized methods.
> > > +
> > > +The RPC program number for the NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM is currently defined
> > > +as 0x20000002 (but a request for a unique RPC program number assignment
> > > +has been submitted to IANA.org).
> > > +
> > > +The following approximately describes the LOCALIO in a pseudo rpcgen .x
> > > +syntax:
> > > +
> > > +#define UUID_SIZE 16
> > > +typedef u8 uuid_t<UUID_SIZE>;
> > > +
> > > +program NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM {
> > > +     version NULLVERS {
> > > +        void NULL(void) = 0;
> > > +	} = 1;
> > > +     version GETUUIDVERS {
> > > +        uuid_t GETUUID(void) = 1;
> > > +	} = 1;
> > > +} = 0x20000002;
> > > +
> > > +The above is the skeleton for the LOCALIO protocol, it doesn't account
> > > +for NFS v3 and v4 RPC boilerplate (which also marshalls RPC status) that
> > > +is used to implement GETUUID.
> > > +
> > > +Here are the respective XDR results for nfsd and nfs:
> > 
> > Hi Mike!
> > 
> > A protocol spec describes the on-the-wire data formats, not the
> > in-memory structure layouts. The below C structures are not
> > relevant to this specification. This should be all you need here,
> > if I understand your protocol correctly:
> > 
> > /* raw RFC 9562 UUID */
> > #define UUID_SIZE 16
> > typedef u8 uuid_t<UUID_SIZE>;
> > 
> > union GETUUID1res switch (uint32 status) {
> 
> I don't think we need a status in the protocol.  GETUUID always returns
> a UUID.  There is no possible error condition.

By having localio use NFS's XDR we're able to piggyback on a status
being returned by standard NFS RPC handling.

See:
nfs3svc_encode_getuuidres and nfs4svc_encode_getuuidres.
nfs3_xdr_dec_getuuidres and nfs4_xdr_dec_getuuidres (and note the
FIXME comment about abusing nfs_opnum4).

Not sure how the reality of piggbacking on NFS XDR should be captured
in the protocol spec here.

> I don't think we need the NULL procedure either, but that is such a
> deeply entrenched practice I won't argue the point.

The code required it be there, I unfortunately don't recall specifics
on what failed if it wasn't there (may have been rpc_bind_new_program).

> > case 0:
> >     uuid_t  uuid;
> > default:
> >     void;
> > };
> > 
> > program NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM {
> >     version LOCALIO_V1 {
> >         void
> >             NULL(void) = 0;
> > 
> >         GETUUID1res
> >             GETUUID(void) = 1;
> >     } = 1;
> > } = 0x20000002;
> > 
> > Then you need to discuss transport considerations:
> > 
> > - Whether this protocol is registered with the server's rpcbind
> >   service,
> > - Which TCP/UDP port number does it use? Assuming 2049, and that
> >   it will appear on the same transport connection as NFS traffic
> >   (just like NFACL).
> > 
> > Should it be supported on port 20049 with RDMA as well?
> 
> I don't think we should be that explicit.  We should way that requests
> are sent to the same destination as the associated NFS requests.  No
> mention of transports or addresses or ports.

OK, I agree.

Thanks,
Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-20 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-19 20:40 [PATCH v6 00/18] nfs/nfsd: add support for localio Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 01/18] nfs: pass nfs_client to nfs_initiate_pgio Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 02/18] nfs: pass descriptor thru nfs_initiate_pgio path Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 03/18] nfs: pass struct file to nfs_init_pgio and nfs_init_commit Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 04/18] sunrpc: add rpcauth_map_to_svc_cred_local Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 05/18] nfs_common: add NFS LOCALIO auxiliary protocol enablement Mike Snitzer
2024-06-21  4:43   ` Jeff Johnson
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 06/18] nfs/nfsd: add "localio" support Mike Snitzer
2024-06-21  6:08   ` NeilBrown
2024-06-21 23:28     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-06-23 22:27       ` NeilBrown
2024-06-25  4:59         ` Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 07/18] nfsd/localio: manage netns reference in nfsd_open_local_fh Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 08/18] NFS: Enable localio for non-pNFS I/O Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 09/18] pnfs/flexfiles: Enable localio for flexfiles I/O Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 10/18] nfs/localio: use dedicated workqueues for filesystem read and write Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 11/18] nfs: implement v3 and v4 client support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 12/18] nfsd: implement v3 and v4 server " Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 13/18] nfs/nfsd: consolidate {encode,decode}_opaque_fixed in nfs_xdr.h Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 14/18] nfsd: prepare to use SRCU to dereference nn->nfsd_serv Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 15/18] nfsd: " Mike Snitzer
2024-06-21  6:35   ` NeilBrown
2024-06-21 23:58     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 16/18] nfsd/localio: use SRCU to dereference nn->nfsd_serv in nfsd_open_local_fh Mike Snitzer
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 17/18] nfs: add Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-06-20 13:52   ` Chuck Lever
2024-06-20 14:33     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-06-20 14:45       ` Chuck Lever
2024-06-20 22:12     ` NeilBrown
2024-06-20 22:35       ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2024-06-20 23:28         ` Chuck Lever
2024-06-20 23:42           ` NeilBrown
2024-06-21  0:30             ` Mike Snitzer
2024-06-21  0:38               ` Mike Snitzer
2024-06-21  0:28           ` Mike Snitzer
2024-06-21  2:18             ` Chuck Lever III
2024-06-19 20:40 ` [PATCH v6 18/18] nfs/nfsd: add Kconfig options to allow localio to be enabled Mike Snitzer
2024-06-20  5:04 ` [PATCH v6 00/18] nfs/nfsd: add support for localio Mike Snitzer

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