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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Cedric Blancher <cedric.blancher@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: <DOT>foo gets NFSv4 HIDDEN attribute by default by nfsd? Re: How to set the NFSv4 "HIDDEN" attribute on Linux?
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2023 09:52:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afb9281a81c2001588dbaf46e0ac13fc99ffbb41.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZWDgvFfkAF8e3MFj@tissot.1015granger.net>

On Fri, 2023-11-24 at 12:43 -0500, Chuck Lever wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 11:24:10PM +0100, Cedric Blancher wrote:
> > Also, it is legal for a nfsd to give the DOT files (/.foo) the HIDDEN
> > attribute by default? Right now on Windows they show up because NFSv4
> > HIDDEN is not set, and it is annoying.
> 
> I suppose an NFS server could do this, but I'm not aware of any
> other multi-protocol file server (eg, Oracle ZFS or NetApp) that
> does.
> 
> Dot-files are obscured on POSIX systems by the NFS clients and their
> user space (ls and graphical file navigators). I don't see why the
> Windows NFS client can't be similarly architected. Or perhaps it
> could fabricate the HIDDEN attribute for such files itself.
> 
> 

Question. GETATTR operates on filehandles, which are roughly analogous
to inode with Linux nfsd:

$ touch visible
$ ln visible .hidden

Is the resulting inode and filehandle now considered HIDDEN or not?

These kinds of issues are endemic when trying to map MS Windows concepts
onto Linux (and vice-versa).
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-25 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-18  6:24 How to set the NFSv4 "HIDDEN" attribute on Linux? Cedric Blancher
2023-11-18 11:56 ` Jeff Layton
2023-11-19 16:51   ` Cedric Blancher
2023-11-20 11:46     ` Jeff Layton
2023-11-20 14:44       ` Chuck Lever III
2023-11-22 22:41         ` Cedric Blancher
2023-11-22 22:42       ` Cedric Blancher
2023-11-23 22:24         ` <DOT>foo gets NFSv4 HIDDEN attribute by default by nfsd? " Cedric Blancher
2023-11-23 22:46           ` Rick Macklem
2023-11-24 17:43           ` Chuck Lever
2023-11-25 14:52             ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2023-11-26 17:08               ` Chuck Lever
2023-11-27 13:33                 ` Jeff Layton
2023-11-30 10:28               ` Cedric Blancher
2023-11-30 14:17                 ` Jeff Layton
2023-11-24 17:30         ` Chuck Lever

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