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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>
Subject: Re: IMA metadata format to support fs-verity
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 09:10:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5f33cb7880932bc1e6bbd3d3988bfad3e943036.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200827010016.GA2387969@gmail.com>

On Wed, 2020-08-26 at 18:00 -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 08:53:33PM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > On Wed, 2020-08-26 at 13:51 -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > Of course, the bytes that are actually signed need to include not just the hash
> > > itself, but also the type of hash algorithm that was used.  Else it's ambiguous
> > > what the signer intended to sign.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, currently EVM appears to sign a raw hash, which means it is
> > > broken, as the hash algorithm is not authenticated.  I.e. if the bytes
> > > e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855 are signed,
> > > there's no way to prove that the signer meant to sign a SHA-256 hash, as opposed
> > > to, say, a Streebog hash.  So that will need to be fixed anyway.  While doing
> > > so, you should reserve some fields so that there's also a flag available to
> > > indicate whether the hash is a traditional full file hash or a fs-verity hash.
> > 
> > The original EVM HMAC is still sha1, but the newer portable & immutable
> > EVM signature supports different hash algorithms.
> > 
> 
> Read what I wrote again.  I'm talking about the bytes that are actually signed.

I agree including the hash algorithm in the digest would be
preferrable, but it isn't per-se broken.   The file signature and the
file metadata hash algorithms are the same, otherwise signature
verification fails[1].   The same tool calculates the file metadata
digest and then signs the digest, using the same hash algorithm.  In
terms of the HMAC, it is (still) limited to SHA1.

Mimi

[1] commit 5feeb61183dd ("evm: Allow non-SHA1 digital signatures")


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-27 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-26 17:13 IMA metadata format to support fs-verity Chuck Lever
2020-08-26 18:31 ` Eric Biggers
2020-08-26 18:56   ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-26 19:24     ` Eric Biggers
2020-08-26 19:51       ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-26 20:51         ` Eric Biggers
2020-08-27  0:53           ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-27  1:00             ` Eric Biggers
2020-08-27 13:10               ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2020-08-27  0:50       ` Mimi Zohar

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